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Damned Christians
RE: Damned Christians
(August 21, 2021 at 6:00 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(August 21, 2021 at 5:57 am)Ahriman Wrote: The Dark Age was the real Enlightenment.

So, you believe that sinners should be killed with rocks, a man should be allowed to own slaves, a husband should be allowed to rape his wife, and non-believers should be burnt at the stake?

Boru
What's illogical about any of that?
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RE: Damned Christians
(August 21, 2021 at 6:04 am)Ahriman Wrote:
(August 21, 2021 at 6:00 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: So, you believe that sinners should be killed with rocks, a man should be allowed to own slaves, a husband should be allowed to rape his wife, and non-believers should be burnt at the stake?

Boru
What's illogical about any of that?

You aren't even an interesting troll.
  
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RE: Damned Christians
(August 21, 2021 at 6:06 am)arewethereyet Wrote:
(August 21, 2021 at 6:04 am)Ahriman Wrote: What's illogical about any of that?

You aren't even an interesting troll.
I'm not trolling. God made humans with the intention of them having good lives. If following God's precepts helps people live good lives, then those precepts should be followed.
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RE: Damned Christians
Yeah, we've had better.
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RE: Damned Christians
Done feeding this one.

Boru
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RE: Damned Christians
(August 21, 2021 at 5:23 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(August 21, 2021 at 5:20 am)Mashmont Wrote: Ah I see the problem. You classify as teachings  you don’t like pertaining to women as abuse. Like marriage. Like childbirth.  Like male priests

No, I classify abuse as abuse. The notion that it's impossible for a husband to rape his wife is an abusive one.

Boru

But you believe sex within a lawful marriage where the wife is young qualifies as abuse.  Yes?  In fact many on the left see marriage itself as subjugation of women.  With those people, this is a pointless debate.

(August 21, 2021 at 5:46 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(August 21, 2021 at 5:35 am)Mashmont Wrote: You’re doing it again. Married mutual sex isn’t rape. Just because you may wish two particular people hadn’t married doesn’t make sex ‘assault’

I never said 'mutual married sex' was rape. But under some Christian denominations, a man can force himself on his wife and it can't be considered rape.

See, this is why - in enlightened societies - secular laws supersede religious ones.

Boru

I don't know any Christian religion that espouses that.  But I can only speak for my religion, Catholicism, which certainly does not.
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RE: Damned Christians
(August 21, 2021 at 6:52 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Done feeding this one.

Boru

I wasn't quite aware of his presence till now.
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RE: Damned Christians
(August 21, 2021 at 10:00 am)Mashmont Wrote: But you believe sex within a lawful marriage where the wife is young qualifies as abuse.  Yes?  In fact many on the left see marriage itself as subjugation of women.  With those people, this is a pointless debate.

He was mostly talking about this Christian practice

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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world...35616.html
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Damned Christians
(August 21, 2021 at 11:32 am)Fake Messiah Wrote:
(August 21, 2021 at 10:00 am)Mashmont Wrote: But you believe sex within a lawful marriage where the wife is young qualifies as abuse.  Yes?  In fact many on the left see marriage itself as subjugation of women.  With those people, this is a pointless debate.

He was mostly talking about this Christian practice

[Image: Ch-mar.jpg]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world...35616.html

It's interesting.  If a minor girl chooses to marry and have sex, that's a big no-no.   But if said minor chooses to have unmarried sex, then who the hell are we to object?
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We reasonably object to both scenarios.
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