(September 1, 2021 at 4:03 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(September 1, 2021 at 4:00 am)WinterHold Wrote: Why didn't I hear about the civil and respectful manner the Taliban treated the deal of evacuation?

I mean they stopped the ISIS terrorists and Saudi/Trump agents from ruining Biden's retreat.
That's the real victory: showing the whole world who the "real terrorists" were.

The Taliban assisted in the retreat because they need to demonstrate that they can actually run things. This will lead to foreign investment, which will provide money, which will enable the Taliban to mount further terrorist operations.

Boru

Isn't being "pragmatic" is decent and wise?
They put the obvious grudge aside to serve the bigger, better future for them.

America also retreated to "catch its breath" after the defeat and the wasting of 2 Trillion Dollars on the war.

From my perspective, it's the better move for the U.S to focus on the inside; there is a huge dangerous Zionist proxy sharping its teeth to chop the American Deep State. They mutated since the Capitol invasion in 2021.

(September 1, 2021 at 5:55 am)WinterHold Wrote:

(September 1, 2021 at 4:03 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: The Taliban assisted in the retreat because they need to demonstrate that they can actually run things. This will lead to foreign investment, which will provide money, which will enable the Taliban to mount further terrorist operations.

Boru

Isn't being "pragmatic" is decent and wise?
They put the obvious grudge aside to serve the bigger, better future for them.

America also retreated to "catch its breath" after the defeat and the wasting of 2 Trillion Dollars on the war.

From my perspective, it's the better move for the U.S to focus on the inside; there is a huge dangerous Zionist proxy sharping its teeth to chop the American Deep State. They mutated since the Capitol invasion in 2021.

No, pragmatism isn't necessarily decent and wise - the annexation of the Sudetenland was pragmatic.

I'd ask you to bear in mind that the bigger, better future for the Taliban almost certainly means a miserable future for everyone under their control.

*no response to paranoid Zionist rhetoric*

Boru

(September 1, 2021 at 6:07 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(September 1, 2021 at 5:55 am)WinterHold Wrote: Isn't being "pragmatic" is decent and wise?
They put the obvious grudge aside to serve the bigger, better future for them.

America also retreated to "catch its breath" after the defeat and the wasting of 2 Trillion Dollars on the war.

From my perspective, it's the better move for the U.S to focus on the inside; there is a huge dangerous Zionist proxy sharping its teeth to chop the American Deep State. They mutated since the Capitol invasion in 2021.

No, pragmatism isn't necessarily decent and wise - the annexation of the Sudetenland was pragmatic.

I'd ask you to bear in mind that the bigger, better future for the Taliban almost certainly means a miserable future for everyone under their control.

*no response to paranoid Zionist rhetoric*

Boru

As the formal definition from Oxford say:

Quote:pragmatism

1. PHILOSOPHY
   an approach that evaluates theories or beliefs in terms of the success of their practical application.
   

Evaluating theories and beliefs in terms of "success" is the wisest thing to do in life; the "attempts" and "trials" that don't lead to success are a failure; keep in mind that just like I warned America from following the path of its previous imperialist attempts, I warn the Taliban too from following the path of extremists like ISIS. So if the Taliban "turned to ISIS"; they will lose any support by most Muslims -just like ISIS did-; and the difference between the two is very very huge.

Respecting one's treaties is a wise thing.

(September 1, 2021 at 6:36 am)WinterHold Wrote:

(September 1, 2021 at 6:07 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: No, pragmatism isn't necessarily decent and wise - the annexation of the Sudetenland was pragmatic.

I'd ask you to bear in mind that the bigger, better future for the Taliban almost certainly means a miserable future for everyone under their control.

*no response to paranoid Zionist rhetoric*

Boru

As the formal definition from Oxford say:

Quote:pragmatism

1. PHILOSOPHY
   an approach that evaluates theories or beliefs in terms of the success of their practical application.
   

Evaluating theories and beliefs in terms of "success" is the wisest thing to do in life; the "attempts" and "trials" that don't lead to success are a failure; keep in mind that just like I warned America from following the path of its previous imperialist attempts, I warn the Taliban too from following the path of extremists like ISIS.

Respecting one's treaties is a wise thing.

As an extreme example, the Nazi death camps of WWII were a pragmatic application of Hitler’s belief that Europe should be free of Jews, homosexuals, dissidents, Gypsies and others, that their possessions (property, money, teeth, skin, hair, bones) should be taken from them and used to help support the Nazi war effort.

Do you consider gassing people en masse to be decent and wise?

Boru

Olb, why don't you like presidents who end wars?

(September 1, 2021 at 7:58 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Olb, why don't you like presidents who end wars?

Big fan of Nixon are ya?

(September 1, 2021 at 6:44 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:

(September 1, 2021 at 6:36 am)WinterHold Wrote: As the formal definition from Oxford say:




Evaluating theories and beliefs in terms of "success" is the wisest thing to do in life; the "attempts" and "trials" that don't lead to success are a failure; keep in mind that just like I warned America from following the path of its previous imperialist attempts, I warn the Taliban too from following the path of extremists like ISIS.

Respecting one's treaties is a wise thing.

As an extreme example, the Nazi death camps of WWII were a pragmatic application of Hitler’s belief that Europe should be free of Jews, homosexuals, dissidents, Gypsies and others, that their possessions (property, money, teeth, skin, hair, bones) should be taken from them and used to help support the Nazi war effort.

Do you consider gassing people en masse to be decent and wise?

Boru

Hitler ignored the historic evidence that shows that people who commit "mass murders and crimes" always lose and get defeated even if it's on the long run; being despised by the oppressed people's sympathetics & become despised and feared even by your closest people are two direct indications that Hitler's brain couldn't get that his actions will bring his doom.

I bet one of the causes for the defeat of his forces were his lieutenants becoming sick of him.

(September 1, 2021 at 8:53 am)onlinebiker Wrote:

(September 1, 2021 at 7:58 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Olb, why don't you like presidents who end wars?

Big fan of Nixon are ya?

Gotta give him credit for getting us out of Vietnam, even though getting out was a clusterfuck too, he did the right thing by ending the war.

(September 1, 2021 at 9:03 am)WinterHold Wrote:

(September 1, 2021 at 6:44 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: As an extreme example, the Nazi death camps of WWII were a pragmatic application of Hitler’s belief that Europe should be free of Jews, homosexuals, dissidents, Gypsies and others, that their possessions (property, money, teeth, skin, hair, bones) should be taken from them and used to help support the Nazi war effort.

Do you consider gassing people en masse to be decent and wise?

Boru

Hitler ignored the historic evidence that shows that people who commit "mass murders and crimes" always lose and get defeated even if it's on the long run; being despised by the oppressed people's sympathetics & become despised and feared even by your closest people are two direct indications that Hitler's brain couldn't get that his actions will bring his doom.

I bet one of the causes for the defeat of his forces were his lieutenants becoming sick of him.

That wasn’t what I asked you, you question-dodging troglodyte. I’ll try again, and we’ll take it in small steps, so we don’t overtax your few working brain cells.

1. You claimed that that which is pragmatic is decent and wise.

2. Hitler’s goal was to destroy ‘European Jewry’.

3. To accomplish #2, the Nazi regime instituted a pragmatic programme of mass murder.

4. Do you think this genocide was decent and wise?

Boru

(September 1, 2021 at 8:53 am)onlinebiker Wrote:

(September 1, 2021 at 7:58 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Olb, why don't you like presidents who end wars?

Big fan of Nixon are ya?

Sure, if he ended the war in Vietnam in the first months of his first term he would probably be a good guy and people would probably not dislike him, but he prolonged the war for many years.