(November 1, 2021 at 2:19 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Seems to me that white supremacy could buy huggy cheaper than they could buy big gay.

With his level of ignorance a gullibility I swear they have him pushing The Great Replacement Theory and The Lost Cause within a week.

(November 1, 2021 at 2:10 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:

(November 1, 2021 at 2:09 pm)Huggy Bear Wrote: You're agreeing with me sweetie.

No one said a female can't be the leader, but in instances where social animals have established a particular gender as leader, we don't observe gender fluidity in that position, showing that there is at least some modicum of concept of gender.

GAG - don't call me sweetie...you make me sick.

Says the person who refers to me as "smuggy"

I suppose there are plenty of things I could of called you, but predictably something as benign as "sweetie" always seems to be the most triggering for you types.

Ones a play on your name the other is something a total creep would say 

(November 1, 2021 at 2:26 pm)Helios Wrote:

(November 1, 2021 at 2:19 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Seems to me that white supremacy could buy huggy cheaper than they could buy big gay.

With his level of ignorance a gullibility I swear they have him pushing The Great Replacement Theory and The Lost Cause within a week.

Already has, in this thread - no need to wait. Bet he's never even seen a check. Richard Spencer got paid - Huggy's a sucker.

I guess that makes ole Dick the alpha...but does that make huggy any less of a real boy?

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(November 1, 2021 at 1:59 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:

(November 1, 2021 at 1:58 pm)Huggy Bear Wrote: *emphasis mine*

But they DO have a concept of gender, if they had absolutely zero concept, instead of an alpha male and female pair, you'd get and alpha pair with 2 males or 2 females, because they have zero concept and can't tell the difference between the genders.

Alrighty then...how about lionesses, hyenas, bonobos, and the other animal groups that are headed up by the female?

Try again...

Probably not as fun as whatever goes on in here when Huggys not shitting on the counter tops...but...being "headed up" by one sex or the other isn't a gender concept. Lions are "headed up" by males - who will absolutely kill any offending female or male interloper.... or cub.  However, the lionesses hunt.  If a male lion tried to participate in a hunt (and they sometimes do)..figuring out whether they held a gender concept would come down to observing how the lionesses handled that - with respect to how they acted "normally", in a hunt without the lion.

-this, ofc, only applies to populations in which the males aren't consistent members of the hunting party. There are a couple of prides observed where this is the normal state of affairs (we assume..due to the size of the targeted game). A strong indicator for gender concepts would be when one sex or another doesn;t participate even though their inclusion would be immediately and apparently beneficial. For humans, for example...Males and Boys have been primary hunters. This despite the fact that female biology is better suited to those hunting conditions exploited (or created) by humans. The explanation for this, conveniently, is that those circumstances have not always been the case. As hunters we specialized in something else - a thing which doesn't even exist anymore. Megafauna. It used to be that adaptations to damage and burst strength mattered - but, today, the ability to distinguish between subtle color changes and manual dexterity determine who does or doesn't bring home dinner. Our traditional gender roles don't match up to our biological reality.

We can tell there's something else going on. The best fruit pickers aren't picking fruit, even though we're picking alot of fruit. This comparison holds even when we consider the vast egalitarian disparity in agricultural production.

(November 1, 2021 at 2:09 pm)Huggy Bear Wrote:

(November 1, 2021 at 1:59 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: Alrighty then...how about lionesses, hyenas, bonobos, and the other animal groups that are headed up by the female?

Try again...

You're agreeing with me sweetie.

No one said a female can't be the leader, but in instances where social animals have established a particular gender as leader, we don't observe gender fluidity in that position, showing that there is at least some modicum of concept of gender.

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(November 1, 2021 at 2:03 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote: You first, I  and others asked you to name an "White LGBTQ" orginazation multiple times. You've avoided it each time.

All of em.

Thank you. That is completely, factually wrong.

It's painfully obvious you've utterly abandoned any and all reasoning and rational in favor of bigotry.

You're dishonest, hateful and not worth conversing with any further. Best of luck to the rest of the thread participants

May FSM heal your heart huggy.

Are there bonus points for the number of hills you have meet your demise on?

@Huggy Bear

We’re still waiting for that list of “whites-only” LGBTQ organizations that you’re so mad at. I mean…you’re so mad at them and their alleged bad behavior I would have thought you’d have those names memorized to heart and ready for dissemination to the ignorant masses.

I mean, wow. 30 (or some such) pages of having your points refuted left and right. What a long-winded and discombobulated way of saying “ew, I hate trans people.”

(November 1, 2021 at 3:34 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: @Huggy Bear

We’re still waiting for that list of “whites-only” LGBTQ organizations that you’re so mad at. I mean…you’re so mad at them and their alleged bad behavior I would have thought you’d have those names memorized to heart and ready for dissemination to the ignorant masses.

Huggy thinks their all-white (despite having POC in leadership roles and employment in general)

(November 1, 2021 at 3:13 pm)no one Wrote: Are there bonus points for the number of hills you have meet your demise on?

Are you kidding? He thinks he’s owning us right now, lol. That’s what he’ll believe in his mind years after this dumpster fire of a discussion has burned itself up.

We've all been completely destroyed, along with mere reality, which lies in smoldering ruin before his argumentative prowess and our sheer hypocrisy.

In other news....my youngest daughter is full on on-board with the pronoun train and correcting me multiple times a day and...well, personally, I just can't get it right and if I'm being honest, have no desire to. Her cousin is doing the same. It was it's own little thing at the beach - they hadn't seen each other in years...since they were both basking in their girlness together and begging me to keep the yucky boys out of their girl funtimes.

Kids play with their gender identities, and I know better than to make a big deal out of it, but I hope it all pans out...for both of them, into some vanilla cis-gendered arrangement. I'm as much a prisoner (or collaborator) of traditional gender identities as the next bigot - the only difference being that I don't chase it with garbage mouthed hate. I...ofc, like so many other cis gendered dads..want my girls to be girls and...more, glowing because of it. I can see how that view ( or a view like my own) can lead to a person declaring themselves Team TERF in light of a very positive (and, fwiw, gender affirming) idea of femininity.

Ultimately, even if my daughter decides this is who she is, he is..I'll still give her or him shit until I get grandkids. It's not as if I only know degrading jokes about one sex or gender. I'm working on a whole thing about shooting ladyblanks, in the event-of.