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~~WinterHold~~ · December 22, 2021 at 4:27 pm

(December 22, 2021 at 10:34 am)arewethereyet Wrote: After nearly nine years here, how many converts has @WinterHold brought over to his faith?

I'm not here for followers; I'm here to talk about my religion.

**arewethereyet** · December 22, 2021 at 4:29 pm

(December 22, 2021 at 4:27 pm)WinterHold Wrote:
(December 22, 2021 at 10:34 am)arewethereyet Wrote: After nearly nine years here, how many converts has @WinterHold brought over to his faith?

I'm not here for followers; I'm here to talk about my religion.

Seems to me that if you have something you want to talk about you'd find an audience that gives a shit. Guess you are here to hear yourself talk. We simply don't care.

**The Valkyrie** · December 22, 2021 at 9:13 pm

If there is an all powerful creator of the universe, I doubt humanity registers as more than, "oh, there are two legged bugs on that blue planet now. I wonder what happened to the four legged ones?"

With those whole cosmos at it's fingers, we probably don't even register that level of interest.

Billions of galaxies, each containing billions of stars, spread out across millions of light years and beyond, as well as a possible multiverse, and a species on a small ball of rock in an out-of-the-way spiral arm of an insignificant galaxy is important to it?

Yeah, right!

~~WinterHold~~ · (This post was last modified: December 23, 2021 at 10:27 am by WinterHold.)

(December 22, 2021 at 4:29 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:
(December 22, 2021 at 4:27 pm)WinterHold Wrote: I'm not here for followers; I'm here to talk about my religion.

Seems to me that if you have something you want to talk about you'd find an audience that gives a shit. Guess you are here to hear yourself talk. We simply don't care.

Big mistake: you don't know who might care & who might not, in other words this verse:

Quote:Sura 6, The Quran:
https://quran.com/6:70?store=false&translations=

And leave those who take their religion as amusement and diversion and whom the worldly life has deluded. But remind with it [i.e., the Qur’ān], lest a soul be given up to destruction for what it earned; it will have other than Allah no protector and no intercessor. And if it should offer every compensation, it would not be taken from it [i.e., that soul]. Those are the ones who are given to destruction for what they have earned. For them will be a drink of scalding water and a painful punishment because they used to disbelieve.

— Saheeh International

So it's a mere reminding that once upon a time, an Arab called "Mohammed PBUH" said these words, and claimed there is a celestial being who revealed them to him, ironically he mentioned stuff so similar to our modern discoveries about the Cosmos, and time after time what he said proved to be....true !
A mere reminder.

(December 22, 2021 at 9:13 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: If there is an all powerful creator of the universe, I doubt humanity registers as more than, "oh, there are two legged bugs on that blue planet now. I wonder what happened to the four legged ones?"

With those whole cosmos at it's fingers, we probably don't even register that level of interest.

Billions of galaxies, each containing billions of stars, spread out across millions of light years and beyond, as well as a possible multiverse, and a species on a small ball of rock in an out-of-the-way spiral arm of an insignificant galaxy is important to it?

Yeah, right!

Humans proved that very small organisms can devastate whole races; viruses are the proof.
Our small size as humans is not an indication of anything other then the "superiority" of God. The Billions of stars are another indication that the maker of all of this is supreme.

But unlike humans, his mercy engulfs the inferior tiny creations.

**Mister Agenda** · December 23, 2021 at 10:40 am

Too bad you don't worship a god able to speak for itself.

~~WinterHold~~ · December 23, 2021 at 12:23 pm

(December 23, 2021 at 10:40 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: Too bad you don't worship a god able to speak for itself.

He did speak to humanity in the Quran, but many humans rejected what he said.

Angrboda · (This post was last modified: December 23, 2021 at 12:59 pm by Angrboda.)

(December 22, 2021 at 4:27 pm)WinterHold Wrote:
(December 22, 2021 at 10:34 am)arewethereyet Wrote: After nearly nine years here, how many converts has @WinterHold brought over to his faith?

I'm not here for followers; I'm here to talk about my religion.

(December 23, 2021 at 10:15 am)WinterHold Wrote:
(December 22, 2021 at 4:29 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: Seems to me that if you have something you want to talk about you'd find an audience that gives a shit. Guess you are here to hear yourself talk. We simply don't care.

Big mistake: you don't know who might care & who might not, in other words this verse:

Quote:Sura 6, The Quran:
https://quran.com/6:70?store=false&translations=

And leave those who take their religion as amusement and diversion and whom the worldly life has deluded. But remind with it [i.e., the Qur’ān], lest a soul be given up to destruction for what it earned; it will have other than Allah no protector and no intercessor. And if it should offer every compensation, it would not be taken from it [i.e., that soul]. Those are the ones who are given to destruction for what they have earned. For them will be a drink of scalding water and a painful punishment because they used to disbelieve.

— Saheeh International

So it's a mere reminding that once upon a time, an Arab called "Mohammed PBUH" said these words, and claimed there is a celestial being who revealed them to him, ironically he mentioned stuff so similar to our modern discoveries about the Cosmos, and time after time what he said proved to be....true !
A mere reminder.

Yeah, so you aren't trying to convert people, but you're hoping that your words might steer someone to salvation. How can you be so stupid as not to see that those are the same thing?

**The Grand Nudger** · (This post was last modified: December 23, 2021 at 2:32 pm by The Grand Nudger.)

(December 23, 2021 at 12:23 pm)WinterHold Wrote:
(December 23, 2021 at 10:40 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: Too bad you don't worship a god able to speak for itself.

He did speak to humanity in the Quran, but many humans rejected what he said.

He spoke to humanity in the new testament, and every muslim has rejected what he said. He spoke to humanity in the old testament, and every christian has rejected what he said.

On and on it goes.

~~WinterHold~~ · (This post was last modified: December 23, 2021 at 6:13 pm by WinterHold.)

(December 23, 2021 at 2:31 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote:
(December 23, 2021 at 12:23 pm)WinterHold Wrote: He did speak to humanity in the Quran, but many humans rejected what he said.

He spoke to humanity in the new testament, and every muslim has rejected what he said. He spoke to humanity in the old testament, and every christian has rejected what he said.

On and on it goes.

No he didn't; the New Testament was written 100 years after Jesus Peace BUH's death, it is similar to the Islamic Hadith in nature: mere recording of the "stories said by Jesus's followers"; not attributed to him at all.

The new testament is Paul's word; not Jesus's word. Just like Bukhari and Muslim are the words of "Bukhari & Muslim"; not Mohammed.

Angrboda · December 23, 2021 at 9:53 pm

(December 23, 2021 at 6:12 pm)WinterHold Wrote:
(December 23, 2021 at 2:31 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: He spoke to humanity in the new testament, and every muslim has rejected what he said. He spoke to humanity in the old testament, and every christian has rejected what he said.

On and on it goes.

No he didn't; the New Testament was written 100 years after Jesus Peace BUH's death, it is similar to the Islamic Hadith in nature: mere recording of the "stories said by Jesus's followers"; not attributed to him at all.

The new testament is Paul's word; not Jesus's word. Just like Bukhari and Muslim are the words of "Bukhari & Muslim"; not Mohammed.

You're a nutjob. We have about as much reason to believe Mohammed on Allah via Gabriel as we do Jesus via the Gospels. Just more of your bullshit double standards.

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