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Ferrocyanide · January 5, 2022 at 1:09 am

Anomalocaris · (This post was last modified: January 5, 2022 at 4:09 am by Anomalocaris.)

Christianity is a man-made thing systematically tailored and adjusted over two thousand years by very intelligent, cunning, unscrupulous, misanthropic people specifically to overwhelm critical thinking faculties of the hoi palloi with an vast and assiduously mustered arsenal of emotional and deceitful attacks, threats, hollow boasts, false promises and basest appeals launched from every direction and carefully tailored and refined to penetrate common cognitive weaknesses as determined through long and careful observation.

Such a purposed, unscrupulous and malevolent construct, with the vast arsenal of tools and weapons still largely at its disposal, and long accustomed to stopping at nothing in pursuit of its own aggrandizement and in defence of its Ill gotten prerogatives, will absolutely not be readily and peaceably relegated to the status of powerlessness.

**brewer** · January 5, 2022 at 8:09 am

But leprosy, scoliosis, blind, ................ no biblical issues. But epilepsy the bible got wrong.

Next.

Jehanne · January 5, 2022 at 8:41 pm

For Christians, the Bible is no longer an infallible authority; instead, it is the individual believer, denomination, etc., who decides what is literal and that which is not. In other words, Christianity has gone from being objective to subjective.

Anomalocaris · January 5, 2022 at 10:19 pm

(January 5, 2022 at 8:41 pm)Jehanne Wrote: For Christians, the Bible is no longer an infallible authority; instead, it is the individual believer, denomination, etc., who decides what is literal and that which is not. In other words, Christianity has gone from being objective to subjective.

it went from subjectivity written down to subjectivity that can’t even be written down.

vulcanlogician · January 5, 2022 at 10:30 pm

(January 5, 2022 at 8:41 pm)Jehanne Wrote: For Christians, the Bible is no longer an infallible authority; instead, it is the individual believer, denomination, etc., who decides what is literal and that which is not. In other words, Christianity has gone from being objective to subjective.

"Infallible" is the real problem here. It tends to suggest "can not be questioned"... "is perfect"... "is better than anything you might think."

I have long thought that Christianity would be much less poisonous and evil without the concept of biblical inerrancy. It's a kind of decent religion without all that. But alas....

**brewer** · (This post was last modified: January 6, 2022 at 7:26 am by brewer.)

(January 5, 2022 at 8:41 pm)Jehanne Wrote: For Christians, the Bible is no longer an infallible authority; instead, it is the individual believer, denomination, etc., who decides what is literal and that which is not. In other words, Christianity has gone from being objective to subjective.

Across all denominations there are a set of definite objective beliefs.

**The Grand Nudger** · (This post was last modified: January 6, 2022 at 8:00 am by The Grand Nudger.)

(January 5, 2022 at 10:30 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: I have long thought that Christianity would be much less poisonous and evil without the concept of biblical inerrancy. It's a kind of decent religion without all that. But alas....

Hardly. The problem with christianity, is christ, after all. It can't help but be evil and poisonous. The faithful honestly don't mean it to be, it just is that way.

Anomalocaris · (This post was last modified: January 6, 2022 at 11:26 am by Anomalocaris.)

(January 5, 2022 at 10:30 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote:
(January 5, 2022 at 8:41 pm)Jehanne Wrote: For Christians, the Bible is no longer an infallible authority; instead, it is the individual believer, denomination, etc., who decides what is literal and that which is not. In other words, Christianity has gone from being objective to subjective.

"Infallible" is the real problem here. It tends to suggest "can not be questioned"... "is perfect"... "is better than anything you might think."

I have long thought that Christianity would be much less poisonous and evil without the concept of biblical inerrancy. It's a kind of decent religion without all that. But alas....

infallible is not the problems. that salvation is needed if you know what’s good for you and there is a christ outside of which is no salvation is the problem. if you embrace that, accepting infallibility seems like just the sensibly conservative bet regardless of whether on any particular issue there is doubt.

So if christianity were to make christianity appreciably less noxious, it must renounce it’s own necessity by renouncing the necessity of christ.

Ahriman · January 6, 2022 at 1:58 pm

I've never taken the Bible to be anything other than an allegory. To that end, it suits its purpose rather well.

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