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RE: Ignosticism, Theism, or Gnostic Atheism
January 31, 2022 at 10:02 am
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If you don't think that your characterization of gods as mythical is knowledge, then you are an agnostic. You think they're mythological, but you don't know they're mythological.
This stuff is pretty simple. No need to tie your scrotum into a knot.
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RE: Ignosticism, Theism, or Gnostic Atheism
January 31, 2022 at 3:35 pm
(January 29, 2022 at 4:06 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: (January 27, 2022 at 2:24 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: Although they are related questions, knowing that something exists is different from knowing what that something is. IMHO a minimal theory of an intelligible reality includes a phenomenal aspect, a nomenal one, and a relationship between them.
What does "nomenal" mean?
Did you typo there? Did you mean to say "nominal"?
And if so, what do you mean by "nominal" (or "nomenal" or whatever you meant to type)?
I think he meant "noumenal"... I had to look that one up myself; as in 'a thing in itself'....as in what exists beyond our senses. Regardless of the context in this thread, it seemed a pretty good/apt description useful for the other thread about consciousness, inasmuch as trying to define what it is and what it is not. Not wanting to go off topic here in this thread though, so just saying.
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RE: Ignosticism, Theism, or Gnostic Atheism
February 1, 2022 at 8:03 pm
(January 31, 2022 at 3:35 pm)emjay Wrote: (January 29, 2022 at 4:06 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: What does "nomenal" mean?
Did you typo there? Did you mean to say "nominal"?
And if so, what do you mean by "nominal" (or "nomenal" or whatever you meant to type)?
I think he meant "noumenal"... I had to look that one up myself; as in 'a thing in itself'....as in what exists beyond our senses. Regardless of the context in this thread, it seemed a pretty good/apt description useful for the other thread about consciousness, inasmuch as trying to define what it is and what it is not. Not wanting to go off topic here in this thread though, so just saying.
Ah! Like Kant's "noumenal self" that explains free will. That's gotta be it.
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RE: Ignosticism, Theism, or Gnostic Atheism
February 1, 2022 at 9:11 pm
(February 1, 2022 at 8:03 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: (January 31, 2022 at 3:35 pm)emjay Wrote: I think he meant "noumenal"... I had to look that one up myself; as in 'a thing in itself'....as in what exists beyond our senses. Regardless of the context in this thread, it seemed a pretty good/apt description useful for the other thread about consciousness, inasmuch as trying to define what it is and what it is not. Not wanting to go off topic here in this thread though, so just saying.
Ah! Like Kant's "noumenal self" that explains free will. That's gotta be it.
I think that means a lot more to you than it does to me, but glad it helped 
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RE: Ignosticism, Theism, or Gnostic Atheism
February 1, 2022 at 9:15 pm
(February 1, 2022 at 9:11 pm)emjay Wrote: (February 1, 2022 at 8:03 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: Ah! Like Kant's "noumenal self" that explains free will. That's gotta be it.
I think that means a lot more to you than it does to me, but glad it helped
I love you, man.
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RE: Ignosticism, Theism, or Gnostic Atheism
February 1, 2022 at 9:23 pm
(February 1, 2022 at 9:15 pm)vulcanlogician Wrote: (February 1, 2022 at 9:11 pm)emjay Wrote: I think that means a lot more to you than it does to me, but glad it helped
I love you, man.
Er... thanks? I think you're great too, man.
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