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How many of you would punish religious people for being religious?
RE: How many of you would punish religious people for being religious?
(April 18, 2022 at 1:24 am)Belacqua Wrote: some people enjoy punishing others.

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RE: How many of you would punish religious people for being religious?
(April 18, 2022 at 1:27 am)Foxaire Wrote:
(April 18, 2022 at 1:24 am)Belacqua Wrote: some people enjoy punishing others.

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Well, obviously.
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RE: How many of you would punish religious people for being religious?
(April 17, 2022 at 12:42 pm)Ahriman Wrote: Well I'm pretty wise, and I don't doubt myself at all, because......why would I?

Better to keep silent and have the world think you're a fool than open your mouth, and remove all doubt.

Unfortunately this advice is way too late for you, so keep waving your idiocy around like it is a badge of honour. It's funny at least.
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RE: How many of you would punish religious people for being religious?
(April 18, 2022 at 2:33 am)Nomad Wrote: Unfortunately this advice is way too late for you, so keep waving your idiocy around like it is a badge of honour.  It's funny at least.

It's nice to see people enjoying themselves. Typing punishment is fun.
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RE: How many of you would punish religious people for being religious?
(April 18, 2022 at 1:24 am)Belacqua Wrote: some people enjoy punishing others.

Yeah, Thomas Aquinas and Augustine loved punishing people.
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RE: How many of you would punish religious people for being religious?
(April 18, 2022 at 3:13 am)Fake Messiah Wrote:
(April 18, 2022 at 1:24 am)Belacqua Wrote: some people enjoy punishing others.

Yeah, Thomas Aquinas and Augustine loved punishing people.
And they were very wise people.
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RE: How many of you would punish religious people for being religious?
At work.

(April 18, 2022 at 6:58 am)Ahriman Wrote:
(April 18, 2022 at 3:13 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Yeah, Thomas Aquinas and Augustine loved punishing people.
And they were very wise people.

*Reads Ahriman's reply*


Uhm.... by what metric?

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RE: How many of you would punish religious people for being religious?
(April 18, 2022 at 7:11 am)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: Uhm.... by what metric?
 

I don't think that wisdom is quantifiable, so it doesn't seem as if there will be a metric available. You might make a judgment call as to whether a person was wise or not, but you'd have to be wise to do so. 

I suspect we all agree that punishment is justifiable in some cases. Wisdom is here the important term, because getting the balance right between justice and mercy may be extremely difficult. And of course just because punishment is justified doesn't mean that a person enjoys meting it out. 

The question on the thread is whether anyone would like to punish people for being religious. It seems to me that if words calculated to make a person feel bad count as punishment, then there are some people who are more than willing to punish people for being religious.
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RE: How many of you would punish religious people for being religious?
Sure are, and the crushing majority of those people are also religious - but it's an interesting question. Is the scourge of people..religious and irreligious, saying mean things about the shitty behavior religious people blame on their religions ever going to be addressed? Wont anyone think of the poor rapists and mutilators fee fees?

Bad atheists! Bad!

(April 17, 2022 at 1:16 pm)polymath257 Wrote: Most mainstream churches have mollified their beliefs to me more compatible with modern values and sensibilities, though. Most of them can avoid the abusive aspects of their religion.

They didn't do that to themselves - and they're still fighting their new limits. That's what makes the entire premise of this thread such a joke.
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At work.

(April 18, 2022 at 7:48 am)Belacqua Wrote:
(April 18, 2022 at 7:11 am)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: Uhm.... by what metric?
 

I don't think that wisdom is quantifiable, so it doesn't seem as if there will be a metric available. You might make a judgment call as to whether a person was wise or not, but you'd have to be wise to do so. 

I suspect we all agree that punishment is justifiable in some cases. Wisdom is here the important term, because getting the balance right between justice and mercy may be extremely difficult. And of course just because punishment is justified doesn't mean that a person enjoys meting it out. 

The question on the thread is whether anyone would like to punish people for being religious. It seems to me that if words calculated to make a person feel bad count as punishment, then there are some people who are more than willing to punish people for being religious.

Hmmmmm.... so, you've got no way to tell if some one or some 'Thing'(Words, concepts etc) actually is/are 'Wise'?

That seems to be a tad problematic.

You then wax lyrical about something I've already answered with a 'No'.

Frankly I'm nonplussed as to your reply.

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