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Evolution cannot account for morality
#81
RE: Evolution cannot account for morality
(May 28, 2022 at 11:39 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:
(May 28, 2022 at 11:12 pm)chiknsld Wrote: All your points are rational, do you think that it's rational enough to be the truth?



It’s like talking to a 3 year old who is pretending to be a 5 year old, and who firmly you ought be overawed by his make belief wisdom and condescension.

I don't believe I have passed any judgment on anyone.
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#82
RE: Evolution cannot account for morality
(May 28, 2022 at 8:59 am)chiknsld Wrote: I suppose what does not make sense is the fact that evolution exists in the first place.

Evolution is a side effect of organisms competing for resources. Any difference between two organisms will become significant if that difference provides an advantage in mating or finding food or avoiding danger. It's "survival of the {best fit for the current circumstances}": Slightly longer legs (better for running away), more drab colouration (better for hiding in the underbrush), and so on. The loser dies; the winner mates, and the advantage is passed on to the offspring. That's all evolution really is: A tendency for slight improvements to propagate to the next generation.
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#83
RE: Evolution cannot account for morality
Quote:I suppose what does not make sense is the fact that evolution exists in the first place.
Adaptability doesn't make sense?
"Change was inevitable"


Nemo sicut deus debet esse!

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#84
RE: Evolution cannot account for morality
Perhaps you should make a new thread op, something like- is rationality true?
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#85
RE: Evolution cannot account for morality
(May 29, 2022 at 4:15 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Perhaps you should make a new thread op, something like- is rationality true?

Alternate title: 'My Life In The Trolling Industry'.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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#86
RE: Evolution cannot account for morality
(May 29, 2022 at 4:15 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Perhaps you should make a new thread op, something like- is rationality true?

It feels like many of you are trying to figure out what the last word will be. Have patience.
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#87
RE: Evolution cannot account for morality
(May 29, 2022 at 6:33 am)chiknsld Wrote:
(May 29, 2022 at 4:15 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Perhaps you should make a new thread op, something like- is rationality true?

It feels like many of you are trying to figure out what the last word will be. Have patience.

Popcorn
  
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#88
RE: Evolution cannot account for morality
(May 29, 2022 at 6:33 am)chiknsld Wrote:
(May 29, 2022 at 4:15 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Perhaps you should make a new thread op, something like- is rationality true?

It feels like many of you are trying to figure out what the last word will be. Have patience.

It’ll be *whispered* ‘Rosebud…’

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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#89
RE: Evolution cannot account for morality
(May 29, 2022 at 6:40 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(May 29, 2022 at 6:33 am)chiknsld Wrote: It feels like many of you are trying to figure out what the last word will be. Have patience.

It’ll be *whispered* ‘Rosebud…’

Boru

I'm just waiting to find out how we make chicken salad out of chicken Poop .
  
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#90
RE: Evolution cannot account for morality
(May 29, 2022 at 1:05 am)Astreja Wrote:
(May 28, 2022 at 8:59 am)chiknsld Wrote: I suppose what does not make sense is the fact that evolution exists in the first place.

Evolution is a side effect of organisms competing for resources.  Any difference between two organisms will become significant if that difference provides an advantage in mating or finding food or avoiding danger.  It's "survival of the {best fit for the current circumstances}":  Slightly longer legs (better for running away), more drab colouration (better for hiding in the underbrush), and so on.  The loser dies; the winner mates, and the advantage is passed on to the offspring.  That's all evolution really is:  A tendency for slight improvements to propagate to the next generation.

This actually makes a lot of sense. Do you think its possible that evolution can apply to non-life as well. If evolution only applies to life (mutations only apply to life) do you think that is strange? Why would evolution under the guise of another process maybe -not apply to non-life as well? What makes you think that matter turns into life and only then does evolution begin? The universe is there in the beginning, matter is there in the beginning, so why cannot evolution be there in the beginning?
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