The nuts gave up on the idea of governing from a majority when they realized they'd never have one. Not just about guns, in general.

(July 5, 2022 at 3:31 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(July 5, 2022 at 3:16 pm)weaponoffreedom Wrote: So, I suppose you are on the left side of the gun debate?

There should be no "left" or "right" on guns, but only one party is making it political.

And there is no "debate" to be had. There are just insecure assholes who insist our level of firearm violence and death is worth the price of them being fucking self entitled and selfish. Little kids being mowed in half is the price they are willing to pay to live in a "free" society. Fuck them. I don't care if it is kids or adults, no other country in the western world worships firearms to a slavish cult like level we do here. And it isn't even the majority, not even of gun owners. 

Where the fuck is my right not to have to worry about having my brains splattered all over the place merely for being out in public? FUCK THEM. I am tired of their fucking bullshit, they are just self entitled assholes who care nothing about public safety.

(July 5, 2022 at 3:31 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(July 5, 2022 at 3:16 pm)weaponoffreedom Wrote: So, I suppose you are on the left side of the gun debate?

There should be no "left" or "right" on guns, but only one party is making it political.

And there is no "debate" to be had. There are just insecure assholes who insist our level of firearm violence and death is worth the price of them being fucking self entitled and selfish. Little kids being mowed in half is the price they are willing to pay to live in a "free" society. Fuck them. I don't care if it is kids or adults, no other country in the western world worships firearms to a slavish cult like level we do here. And it isn't even the majority, not even of gun owners. 

Where the fuck is my right not to have to worry about having my brains splattered all over the place merely for being out in public? FUCK THEM. I am tired of their fucking bullshit, they are just self entitled assholes who care nothing about public safety.

There sure as fuck is a fucking debate.  You are having one right fucking now.  See how using the word "fuck" ads no real value.....

Where is your right to not have your head blown off?  You dont have that right, but you do have the right to stop the individual who means to do you harm.  And in the event that you do, I hope you have the ability. Unless you dont want to.

Do you own any guns?

Is that the left side of the debate, then? Brian here insists he has a right not to have to worry about having his brains splattered all over the place...and the right side of that debate is to say that he doesn't have such a right - and suggest he get a gun?

You don't know brian like we do, but buddy..the very last thing he needs is a gun.

(July 5, 2022 at 4:40 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Is that the left side of the debate, then?  Brian here insists he has a right not to have to worry about having his brains splattered all over the place...and the right side of that debate is to say that he doesn't have such a right - and suggest he get a gun?  

You don't know brian like we do, but buddy..the very last thing he needs is a gun.

Life in general is cause for panic in Brian's world.  

But, yeah, we don't need him armed...partly because he is always in a panic.

(July 5, 2022 at 4:28 pm)weaponoffreedom Wrote:

(July 5, 2022 at 3:31 pm)Brian37 Wrote: There should be no "left" or "right" on guns, but only one party is making it political.

And there is no "debate" to be had. There are just insecure assholes who insist our level of firearm violence and death is worth the price of them being fucking self entitled and selfish. Little kids being mowed in half is the price they are willing to pay to live in a "free" society. Fuck them. I don't care if it is kids or adults, no other country in the western world worships firearms to a slavish cult like level we do here. And it isn't even the majority, not even of gun owners. 

Where the fuck is my right not to have to worry about having my brains splattered all over the place merely for being out in public? FUCK THEM. I am tired of their fucking bullshit, they are just self entitled assholes who care nothing about public safety.

There sure as fuck is a fucking debate.  You are having one right fucking now.  See how using the word "fuck" ads no real value.....

Where is your right to not have your head blown off?  You dont have that right, but you do have the right to stop the individual who means to do you harm.  And in the event that you do, I hope you have the ability. Unless you dont want to.

Do you own any guns?

LISTEN asshole, you don't get to try to force a fucking gun on anyone then blame them for their own murder because they don't want to own a gun. IT IS ABOUT FUCKING PUBLIC SAFETY. And if you think our country is safe regarding firearm violence, you are fucking nuts. 

"You don't want to own a gun? Sucks to be you."..... No asshole, that is not the way it works. 

NO FUCKFACE, I do not own a gun, nor should I have one, because I suffer from depression and anxiety. I am glad you didn't raise me as a kid, I would have popped myself a long time ago. 

Not everyone should own a firearm and the only way to insure they do not get into the wrong hands ISN'T TO WAIT until something bad happens. It is to do the right thing before someone leaves a sale or private sale with a gun. YES craw the fuck up their asses, that is what our allies do, and they still have firearms. But if you insist on keeping your fucking head up your ass so be it, but I am not obligated to fucking bow to you, and I also vote. Don't like it? TOUGH SHIT!

If you think sell more is working, you belong in a padded cell. If you think it is ok that a kid had to spread her friend's blood on herself to avoid being murdered, you need a padded cell. If you think it is ok for kids to be dumped in a dumpster to avoid getting shot by a sniper FUCK YOU.

I do not play nice with my words with assholes who act like they care, but really do not.

That's the real trouble, from a gun enthusiasts point of view. In the end, guns in america will fall off a voting demographic cliff. They already are - the antimajoritarian capture of our government is the only thing standing between now and a total ban. Then I'll have to hide the fun up in the attic.

Quote:Where is your right to not have your head blown off?

From where I'm seeing with US gun laws someone seems to already have the right to blow your head off 

Quote:You don't have that right, but you do have the right to stop the individual who means to do you harm.

This seems to include blowing head off for subjective definitions of "harm" often resulting in a heavy-handed approach that leads to a lot of needless death by trigger-happy morons. 

Quote:And in the event that you do, I hope you have the ability. Unless you dont want to.

The likelihood he will ever a scenario where a gun will do him a lick of good is low at best. I never needed a gun in my life and have known gun nuts whose possession of such a weapon didn't help them in the slightest when things went south.

(July 5, 2022 at 4:50 pm)arewethereyet Wrote:

(July 5, 2022 at 4:40 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Is that the left side of the debate, then?  Brian here insists he has a right not to have to worry about having his brains splattered all over the place...and the right side of that debate is to say that he doesn't have such a right - and suggest he get a gun?  
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You don't know brian like we do, but buddy..the very last thing he needs is a gun.

Life in general is cause for panic in Brian's world.  

But, yeah, we don't need him armed...partly because he is always in a panic.

If everyone agrees I should not own a firearm, then congrats, we are all on the same page. But I don't want one, because I want to hurt others, I don't want one because of thoughts of self harm, and I have had them in the past. Gun nutters think handing out guns for any and every reason is always the solution, and it clearly is not. Otherwise America would be the safest nation regarding firearm violence but we are not. We are #1 in firearm violence, and no, this isn't panic, and it isn't just me. The volume of firearms we have in civilian hands is insane, it isn't meeting any pragmatic need for society other than to let CEOs and Shareholders profit off of death.

(July 5, 2022 at 6:05 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(July 5, 2022 at 4:28 pm)weaponoffreedom Wrote: There sure as fuck is a fucking debate.  You are having one right fucking now.  See how using the word "fuck" ads no real value.....

Where is your right to not have your head blown off?  You dont have that right, but you do have the right to stop the individual who means to do you harm.  And in the event that you do, I hope you have the ability. Unless you dont want to.

Do you own any guns?

LISTEN asshole, you don't get to try to force a fucking gun on anyone then blame them for their own murder because they don't want to own a gun. IT IS ABOUT FUCKING PUBLIC SAFETY. And if you think our country is safe regarding firearm violence, you are fucking nuts. 

"You don't want to own a gun? Sucks to be you."..... No asshole, that is not the way it works. 

NO FUCKFACE, I do not own a gun, nor should I have one, because I suffer from depression and anxiety. I am glad you didn't raise me as a kid, I would have popped myself a long time ago. 

Not everyone should own a firearm and the only way to insure they do not get into the wrong hands ISN'T TO WAIT until something bad happens. It is to do the right thing before someone leaves a sale or private sale with a gun. YES craw the fuck up their asses, that is what our allies do, and they still have firearms. But if you insist on keeping your fucking head up your ass so be it, but I am not obligated to fucking bow to you, and I also vote. Don't like it? TOUGH SHIT!

If you think sell more is working, you belong in a padded cell. If you think it is ok that a kid had to spread her friend's blood on herself to avoid being murdered, you need a padded cell. If you think it is ok for kids to be dumped in a dumpster to avoid getting shot by a sniper FUCK YOU.

I do not play nice with my words with assholes who act like they care, but really do not.

When the fuck did I say that your dumbass SHOULD HAVE A GUN?  I said ability to defend yourself.  I asked if you owned guns! 

The fact that you have depression and anxiety means nothing to me, in the sense of whether or not you have guns.  I am sorry, that you have this affliction.  You have the "right" to defend yourself, by any means nessessary, and you should have the ability to do so, to the maximum level.  If I may ask, what is the source of your depression?