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Damned Christians
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(July 4, 2022 at 7:42 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Another Christian is entering the halls of martyrdom because he is spreading hate to fight for Christian principles

Quote:Jordan Peterson suspended from Twitter over Elliot Page comment, says he would rather die than apologize

Jordan Peterson has been temporarily suspended from using Twitter after breaching the platform's hateful conduct policy with a post that used Elliot Page's former name.

The tweet was in response to a New York Post article in which Page said he is proud to introduce a trans character to the new Netflix show he stars in.

https://www.joe.ie/news/jordan-peterson-...ogy-751008

Translation ofPetersons words, "I put up a needlessly cruel and hateful tweet because I find fewer people are listening to me. I demand, crave, attention."
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(July 4, 2022 at 10:54 am)HappySkeptic Wrote:
(July 4, 2022 at 7:42 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Another Christian is entering the halls of martyrdom because he is spreading hate to fight for Christian principles

This is an overreaction response that will make Peterson a hero to the right.  He made his reputation on refusing to call people by their preferred pronouns - he is obviously going to revel in this.

When will the left get it -- forcing people to be "woke" through retribution will only entrench the opposition.

We're not responsible for the right's hate filled shitology. If they don't like the way theworld works that's their fault not ours.
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WHEN RELIGIOUS FREEDOM MEANS FREEDOM FOR RELIGIOUS VIOLENCE

at least since January 6th, some MAGA sectors have been dropping much of the pretense of religious freedom, while they appear to openly prepare their audiences for vigilante violence and religious war. The messages aren’t always consistent, but they are fairly consistently violent.

This has been on vivid display on the ReAwaken America Tour, which has been kind of a rolling campaign for revolt since the failed coup. Led by former Trump national security advisor Michael Flynn, the 15 rallies held since April 2021 have each drawn thousands of attendees. Like “Stop the Steal” events, they tend to be foggy, distortion-infused affairs, full of dire warnings of hidden evil and worse to come. There are at least three more planned this year: one for Southern Virginia, one for Western New York, and another for the Idaho panhandle—border regions intended to draw the maximum number of attendees.

Election, medical, and vaccine conspiracists, along with insurrection veterans like Flynn, Eric Trump, Sidney Powell, Mike Lindell, and Roger Stone grab most of the media attention. But a disturbing religious dimension has received far less attention; that is, until November, when Flynn blurted out their broad intention at a San Antonio rally, “If we are going to have one nation under God, which we must, we have to have one religion. One nation under God, and one religion under God.” 

But there’s so much more.

The ReAwaken events are a revision and rebranding of “Health and Freedom” conferences which in the Spring of 2021, rallied opposition to Covid prevention measures such as masking, vaccinations and closure of public spaces. By the Summer, it had become the ReAwaken America Tour, with the sponsorship of the Charisma magazine publishing empire headed by Steven Strang. 

Impresario and tour director Clay Clark introduced Lance Walnau as a prophet when he spoke at the event in Phoenix, Arizona in January 2022. Walnau is an important figure in the neo-Charismatic New Apostolic Reformation, best known for his advocacy of the idea of Seven Mountains Dominionism, which is a vision of Christians gaining control over the main sectors of societal influence—namely, religion, government, family, arts & entertainment, business, media, and education. Church offices in this movement are termed the “five-fold ministry” of apostle, prophet, pastor, teacher, and evangelist.

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https://religiondispatches.org/when-reli...-violence/



The patriotic Virgin: How Mary’s been marshaled for religious nationalism and military campaigns

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A mural in Kyiv depicts the Virgin Mary cradling a U.S.-made anti-tank weapon, a Javelin, which is considered a symbol of Ukraine’s defense against Russia.

Ever since Russia began its invasion of Ukraine on Feb. 24, 2022, analysts picking apart Vladimir Putin’s motives and messaging about the war have looked to religion for some of the answers. Putin’s nationalist vision paints Russia as a defender of traditional Christian values against a liberal, secular West.

Putin’s Russia, however, is only the latest in a centurieslong lineup of nations using religion to bolster their political ambitions.

Western Christianity, including Catholicism, has often been enlisted to stir up patriotic fervor in support of nationalism. Historically, one typical aspect of the Catholic approach is linking devotion to the Virgin Mary with the interests of the state and military.

In A.D. 626, Constantinople was besieged by a Persian navy. Christians believed that their prayers to the Virgin destroyed the invading fleet, saving the city and its inhabitants. The Akathist hymn, which has been prayed in both the Orthodox and Eastern Catholic churches ever since, gives Mary the military title “Champion General” in thanks for that victory.

In the Catholic West, military successes such as European victories over the Ottoman Empire were attributed to Mary’s intervention. Her blessing has been sought on imperialist endeavors, including Spain’s conquest of the Americas.

Even today, Mary holds the title of general in the armies of Argentina and Chile, where she is considered a national patroness. The same association between Marian devotion and patriotism can be found in many Latin American countries.

All these uses draw on the ancient belief in Mary’s power to intervene in times of trouble. However, ideological, political and especially military ambitions and religious sentiment are a volatile mix. As the current war in Ukraine shows, allegiance to one’s nation, especially when it claims Christian inspiration, can inspire both imperialist expansionism and heroic resistance to it.

https://theconversation.com/the-patrioti...gns-183200



The Far-Right Christian Quest for Power: ‘We Are Seeing Them Emboldened’

Political candidates on the fringe mix religious fervor with conspiracy theories, even calling for the end of the separation of church and state.

Three weeks before he won the Republican nomination for Pennsylvania governor, Doug Mastriano stood beside a three-foot-tall painted eagle statue and declared the power of God.

Mr. Mastriano, a state senator, retired Army colonel and prominent figure in former President Donald J. Trump’s futile efforts to overturn the state’s 2020 election results, was addressing a far-right conference that mixed Christian beliefs with conspiracy theories, called Patriots Arise. Instead of focusing on issues like taxes, gas prices or abortion policy, he wove a story about what he saw as the true Christian identity of the nation, and how it was time, together, for Christians to reclaim political power.

The separation of church and state was a “myth,” he said. “In November we are going to take our state back, my God will make it so.”

Mr. Mastriano’s ascension in Pennsylvania is perhaps the most prominent example of right-wing candidates for public office who explicitly aim to promote Christian power in America. The religious right has long supported conservative causes, but this current wave seeks more: a nation that actively prioritizes their particular set of Christian beliefs and far-right views and that more openly embraces Christianity as a bedrock identity.

Many dismiss the historic American principle of the separation of church and state. They say they do not advocate a theocracy, but argue for a foundational role for their faith in government. Their rise coincides with significant backing among like-minded grass-roots supporters, especially as some voters and politicians blend their Christian faith with election fraud conspiracy theories, QAnon ideology, gun rights and lingering anger over Covid-related restrictions.

Their presence reveals a fringe pushing into the mainstream.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/08/us/ch...cians.html
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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(July 4, 2022 at 2:03 pm)GUBU Wrote:
(July 4, 2022 at 7:42 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Another Christian is entering the halls of martyrdom because he is spreading hate to fight for Christian principles

Translation ofPetersons words, "I put up a needlessly cruel and hateful tweet because I find fewer people are listening to me.  I demand, crave, attention."

He'd rather die than apologize? I'm ok with that arrangement.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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The 'mainstream media' needs to be a little less afraid of the appearance of fearmongering when we should actually be afraid. Flynn's 'one nation, one religion' speech shold be on the nightly news and all the non-rightwing news outlets; and so should Doug Mastriano's 'separation of church and state is a myth' speech. The American people are not alarmed enough. The Christianists aren't even trying to take the rest of us by surprise, but with the media that should be informing us is letting them slide, most of us won't see it coming.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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(July 4, 2022 at 2:03 pm)GUBU Wrote:
(July 4, 2022 at 7:42 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Another Christian is entering the halls of martyrdom because he is spreading hate to fight for Christian principles

Translation ofPetersons words, "I put up a needlessly cruel and hateful tweet because I find fewer people are listening to me. I demand, crave, attention."



teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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They really want a theocracy, don't they?



teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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A bishop who was in the middle of delivering his sermon and his wife were robbed at gunpoint of more than $1 million worth of jewelry at a Brooklyn church on Sunday, the police said.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/25/nyreg...bbery.html
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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It's ok... he can pray for justice, no need to involve the police
The meek shall inherit the Earth, the rest of us will fly to the stars.

Never underestimate the power of very stupid people in large groups

Arguing with an engineer is like wrestling with a pig in mud ..... after a while you realise that the pig likes it!

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And the one thing that knew in advance, created the evil perpetrator and had a front row seat to watch it all go down did nothing.

And they all still praise this monster god

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