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Damned Christians
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(July 25, 2022 at 5:05 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: A bishop who was in the middle of delivering his sermon and his wife were robbed at gunpoint of more than $1 million worth of jewelry at a Brooklyn church on Sunday, the police said.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/25/nyreg...bbery.html

Where was god during all this?

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Well, I guess conservative Christians would say that God is not in the godless New York that tolerates homosexuals and abortions.

While liberal Christians could see these thieves did this bishop a favor by freeing him of the sinful and greedy wealth that he should have given to the poor. Now all that bishop needs to do is forgive the thieves and he is a "bigger man" in the eyes of God, while the thieves get the curse of accumulating the wealth.

That's how it is with Christianity - or should I say cognitive bias.
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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(July 26, 2022 at 12:22 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: Well, I guess conservative Christians would say that God is not in the godless New York that tolerates homosexuals and abortions.

While liberal Christians could see these thieves did this bishop a favor by freeing him of the sinful and greedy wealth that he should have given to the poor. Now all that bishop needs to do is forgive the thieves and he is a "bigger man" in the eyes of God, while the thieves get the curse of accumulating the wealth.

That's how it is with Christianity - or should I say cognitive bias.
Yup, when you can appeal to mysterious ways anything makes sense.
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After court ruling, activists push prayer into schools

They say church and state are already too separate

A month has passed since the Supreme Court ruled in favor of a Washington state football coach who knelt at midfield to pray and was joined by student-athletes. The court wrote, in a 6-3 decision, that Bremerton High School assistant coach Joseph Kennedy’s prayers were protected by the Constitution’s guarantees of free speech and religious exercise, and that the district was wrong to discipline him for what the majority saw as a private act.

In response, families, teachers and activists are preparing to push religious worship into public schools nationwide — working to blur the line dividing prayer and pedagogy and promising emotional, spiritual and educational benefits for students. Some school officials are listening: In at least three states, Illinois, Alabama and Oregon, school personnel have said they are reviewing their policies on employee prayer.

The fiercest advocates for church-state separation also concede they were fighting an uphill battle even before the court’s ruling. Annie Laurie Gaylor, co-founder of the Freedom From Religion Foundation, said many districts routinely ignore the string of 1960s and 1970s Supreme Court decisions establishing that public schools cannot require students to recite prayers, cannot allow teachers to lead students in prayer and generally cannot promote or inhibit religion at school.

Some mothers and fathers also fear what the next school year may bring. Those who practice non-Christian religions warn that, in most of America, “prayer” will by default mean Christian prayer, leaving their children alienated and isolated — while those who do not practice any faith worry their children will be coerced into espousing values and beliefs their parents do not share.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education...rch-state/

Yes, Walgreens employees can refuse to sell condoms because of their religion

In early July, Nate Pentz, a licensed realtor based in Minnesota, tweeted that a Wisconsin Walgreens employee refused to sell him and his wife condoms due to the employee’s “faith.”

Walgreens told VERIFY if “a team member has a religious belief that prevents them from meeting a customer need, the company requires the employee to refer the customer to another employee or manager on duty who can complete the transaction.” Walgreens also confirmed that Nate Pentz and his wife’s now-viral transaction at a Wisconsin store was completed by another team member.

VERIFY reached out to Pentz on Twitter, and he said Walgreens called him and his wife after the incident and apologized. He said the company told them “it was a breakdown in training and handing off a transaction.”

https://www.verifythis.com/article/news/...82722f8498
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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Religion is the number one cause of the impoverishment of Ghana and Africa as a whole

In Ghana and all black African countries in Africa, people frequent churches in the hope of worshipping God seven days a week and at many times a day. They spend most of their time in churches, praying to God and consulting with their pastors and prophets, same believing that such is the means to unlock the gates of heaven to shower upon them blessings, prosperity and abundant wealth from God.

Most of them have even come to see their pastors and prophets as God who have the power to take them to heaven should they obediently heed whatever they tell them.

Productive man hours are lost for the fact the church members spend all their time at churches, doing nothing that will practically boost the economy of the nation but fill the long dirty pockets of their pastors and prophets.

When a church member is sick, they are taken to the church house to be prayed for. They remain there until they die or their health worsens before they are rushed to the hospital to die. However, when the pastor or their wife or children fall sick, they are rushed to the most expensive, well-equipped private hospitals for treatment.

Many have been in the churches for years praying all the time to see God’s favour but are always poor, if not poorer than before they went to the church. They continue, and are encouraged, to pay their tithes, offertories and dues, by their pastors. While they stay poor and unintelligent, the pastors use their tithes and offertories and dues paid as their personal money to live affluent lives at the expense of the congregation. Is this not stupidity by the church members?

Many a Ghanaian or African by their Christian religious beliefs has been made to understand that the world is coming to an end soon so they will not do anything profitable that has a long term benefit to themselves and their community. They will not have sufficient days or years to live on earth to enjoy the fruits of their labour so why bother themselves, some say.

https://www.modernghana.com/news/1174329...erish.html
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Damned Christians
(July 26, 2022 at 12:37 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: After court ruling, activists push prayer into schools

They say church and state are already too separate

A month has passed since the Supreme Court ruled in favor of a Washington state football coach who knelt at midfield to pray and was joined by student-athletes. The court wrote, in a 6-3 decision, that Bremerton High School assistant coach Joseph Kennedy’s prayers were protected by the Constitution’s guarantees of free speech and religious exercise, and that the district was wrong to discipline him for what the majority saw as a private act.

In response, families, teachers and activists are preparing to push religious worship into public schools nationwide — working to blur the line dividing prayer and pedagogy and promising emotional, spiritual and educational benefits for students. Some school officials are listening: In at least three states, Illinois, Alabama and Oregon, school personnel have said they are reviewing their policies on employee prayer.

The fiercest advocates for church-state separation also concede they were fighting an uphill battle even before the court’s ruling. Annie Laurie Gaylor, co-founder of the Freedom From Religion Foundation, said many districts routinely ignore the string of 1960s and 1970s Supreme Court decisions establishing that public schools cannot require students to recite prayers, cannot allow teachers to lead students in prayer and generally cannot promote or inhibit religion at school.

Some mothers and fathers also fear what the next school year may bring. Those who practice non-Christian religions warn that, in most of America, “prayer” will by default mean Christian prayer, leaving their children alienated and isolated — while those who do not practice any faith worry their children will be coerced into espousing values and beliefs their parents do not share.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education...rch-state/

Yes, Walgreens employees can refuse to sell condoms because of their religion

In early July, Nate Pentz, a licensed realtor based in Minnesota, tweeted that a Wisconsin Walgreens employee refused to sell him and his wife condoms due to the employee’s “faith.”

Walgreens told VERIFY if “a team member has a religious belief that prevents them from meeting a customer need, the company requires the employee to refer the customer to another employee or manager on duty who can complete the transaction.” Walgreens also confirmed that Nate Pentz and his wife’s now-viral transaction at a Wisconsin store was completed by another team member.

VERIFY reached out to Pentz on Twitter, and he said Walgreens called him and his wife after the incident and apologized. He said the company told them “it was a breakdown in training and handing off a transaction.”

https://www.verifythis.com/article/news/...82722f8498

The first ruling basicly makes hate speech mandatory in US schools. Students should have the equal right to wer shirts saying [Name Name] rapes childen when being forced to utter prayers.
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RE: Damned Christians
(July 31, 2022 at 5:21 am)GUBU Wrote:
(July 26, 2022 at 12:37 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: After court ruling, activists push prayer into schools

They say church and state are already too separate

A month has passed since the Supreme Court ruled in favor of a Washington state football coach who knelt at midfield to pray and was joined by student-athletes. The court wrote, in a 6-3 decision, that Bremerton High School assistant coach Joseph Kennedy’s prayers were protected by the Constitution’s guarantees of free speech and religious exercise, and that the district was wrong to discipline him for what the majority saw as a private act.

In response, families, teachers and activists are preparing to push religious worship into public schools nationwide — working to blur the line dividing prayer and pedagogy and promising emotional, spiritual and educational benefits for students. Some school officials are listening: In at least three states, Illinois, Alabama and Oregon, school personnel have said they are reviewing their policies on employee prayer.

The fiercest advocates for church-state separation also concede they were fighting an uphill battle even before the court’s ruling. Annie Laurie Gaylor, co-founder of the Freedom From Religion Foundation, said many districts routinely ignore the string of 1960s and 1970s Supreme Court decisions establishing that public schools cannot require students to recite prayers, cannot allow teachers to lead students in prayer and generally cannot promote or inhibit religion at school.

Some mothers and fathers also fear what the next school year may bring. Those who practice non-Christian religions warn that, in most of America, “prayer” will by default mean Christian prayer, leaving their children alienated and isolated — while those who do not practice any faith worry their children will be coerced into espousing values and beliefs their parents do not share.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education...rch-state/

Yes, Walgreens employees can refuse to sell condoms because of their religion

In early July, Nate Pentz, a licensed realtor based in Minnesota, tweeted that a Wisconsin Walgreens employee refused to sell him and his wife condoms due to the employee’s “faith.”

Walgreens told VERIFY if “a team member has a religious belief that prevents them from meeting a customer need, the company requires the employee to refer the customer to another employee or manager on duty who can complete the transaction.” Walgreens also confirmed that Nate Pentz and his wife’s now-viral transaction at a Wisconsin store was completed by another team member.

VERIFY reached out to Pentz on Twitter, and he said Walgreens called him and his wife after the incident and apologized. He said the company told them “it was a breakdown in training and handing off a transaction.”

https://www.verifythis.com/article/news/...82722f8498

The first ruling basicly makes hate speech mandatory in US schools.  Students should have the equal right to wer shirts saying [Name Name] rapes childen when being forced to utter prayers.

They don’t actually want prayer in schools. They want exclusively Christian prayer in schools. As a test, see what happens the first time a Muslim student unrolls his sajjada, or a Hindu student lights her incense.

Allowing Christian prayer while banning others isn’t religious freedom, it is religious oppression.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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(July 31, 2022 at 5:51 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(July 31, 2022 at 5:21 am)GUBU Wrote: The first ruling basicly makes hate speech mandatory in US schools.  Students should have the equal right to wer shirts saying [Name Name] rapes childen when being forced to utter prayers.

They don’t actually want prayer in schools. They want exclusively Christian prayer in schools. As a test, see what happens the first time a Muslim student unrolls his sajjada, or a Hindu student lights her incense.

Allowing Christian prayer while banning others isn’t religious freedom, it is religious oppression.

Boru

What else would you expect from a bunch of nazis?
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(August 1, 2022 at 4:59 am)GUBU Wrote:
(July 31, 2022 at 5:51 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: They don’t actually want prayer in schools. They want exclusively Christian prayer in schools. As a test, see what happens the first time a Muslim student unrolls his sajjada, or a Hindu student lights her incense.

Allowing Christian prayer while banning others isn’t religious freedom, it is religious oppression.

Boru

What else would you expect from a bunch of nazis?

Nothing else. I’m awash in unsurprise.

Boru
‘But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods or no gods. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.’ - Thomas Jefferson
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An absurd Texas state law says that if someone donates a sign to a school that says “In God we trust,” the school has to display them.

Quote:Signs saying "In God We Trust" will now hang in Carroll ISD schools after being donated by a locally-owned wireless provider.

Patriot Mobile, which labels itself a Christian conservative wireless provider, donated the signs to the Carroll Independent School District and they will now be hung in CISD schools.

According to a state law passed in 2021, schools are required to display signs or posters bearing the national motto in a conspicuous place provided that the signs were donated to the school or bought with private donations.

https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/local/in-god...s/3049723/
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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