(December 23, 2022 at 12:05 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: Should bad Israelis be called out as "Jew", and should the other races in Israel be bringing up the "problem of the Jew"

Can you [generic "you", not you personally] demonstrate that the "problems" prompting the complaints arise from their Jewishness? If you can, show your work, there's a good lad, and we can develop an informed opinion.

If you can't, like Kanye didn't, you're being a bigoted shitbag.

I'm not holding much hope, though, I've already seen how little you care for evidence. I just wanted to lay this point into the convo.

(December 23, 2022 at 1:15 pm)Helios Wrote: I just like I think his Antisemitism arc will go on for a few more years then he will pretend he never said it or will walk it all back. The man will do anything to stay relevant 

Watch for the book and the Apology Tour® complete with stops on Oprah and NPR.

(December 23, 2022 at 6:52 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:

(December 23, 2022 at 1:15 pm)Helios Wrote: I just like I think his Antisemitism arc will go on for a few more years then he will pretend he never said it or will walk it all back. The man will do anything to stay relevant 

Watch for the book and the Apology Tour® complete with stops on Oprah and NPR.

Oh yeah, he will grand tour of it. The man has no shame...

(December 23, 2022 at 2:30 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: [..] but nothing in life is chosen consciously.

Possibly the stupidest post I've read this year, anywhere online.

You should stick to speaking for yourself. Of course, you probably are, in this case. You don't strike me as terribly conscious.

(December 23, 2022 at 7:01 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:

(December 23, 2022 at 2:30 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: [..] but nothing in life is chosen consciously.

Possibly the stupidest post I've read this year, anywhere online.

You should stick to speaking for yourself. Of course, you probably are, in this case. You don't strike me as terribly conscious.

IA doesn't believe in freewill and every time he makes this declaration he proves himself wrong. It is very amusing.

(December 23, 2022 at 12:05 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: I'm aware the bad white people to bad Jewish people in the US thing in not a one to one comparison, as non-Jewish whites are the majority of the country, while Jews are far from that. So, let's shift to a Jewish majority country. Israel. Should bad Israelis be called out as "Jew", and should the other races in Israel be bringing up the "problem of the Jew"? If you answer yes, then and only then, will I see you as being logically consistent.

"Jew" is not a race, you racist pig.

(December 23, 2022 at 2:54 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: OFC I can, shit for brains.  They're not mentally ill, they're just indoctrinated.  They've been groomed, same as you, in exactly the same way, by exactly the same people, to exactly the same end.

You'll feel compelled to prove this in your very next response, as you are in any response, to anything.  None of you have any control over yourselves now, if you ever did.  This, and not your constantly disgorged fantasies, is the danger we face as a society.

I do wish it were that simple, though, and that we could just medicate the lot of you and call it a day.  Wouldn't work, sadly.

No one in Q Anon is mentally ill? That's news to me. You know I'm right. Q Anon members suffer from more mental illness per capita. Many of them suffer from severe paranoia. Many of them don't have the mental faculties to put up a roadblock and say, wait, that claim sounds really fantastical. Of course, you are misrepresenting my position again by trying to pretend like I said all Q Anoners are mentally ill. Many sane people believe their dumb crap. On average though, surely they suffer more mental illness.

And I know you probably don't watch many lefty streamers online, but half of the big ones have basically the same stance as me on this. They wouldn't use the word war, per se, but Destiny, Vaush, etc, (half of the big streamers) share my stance that the white hatred is cringe and plain as day, and they call it out all of the time, and these are the biggest lefty streamers in the business, and they happen to be a lot further left than me even, so yeah, if you think my stance against your bigoted rhetoric is really that rare on the left and is only seen in right-wingville, you're just incorrect.

(December 23, 2022 at 7:01 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:

(December 23, 2022 at 2:30 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: [..] but nothing in life is chosen consciously.

Possibly the stupidest post I've read this year, anywhere online.

You should stick to speaking for yourself. Of course, you probably are, in this case. You don't strike me as terribly conscious.

Where is your evidence that things in life are chosen consciously? That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence, right my dude? You're sounding an awful lot like a Christian right now.

No one wakes up one day choosing to be racist. It just happens. Could happen over the course of months or years. A little seed of hatred planted here and there, waiting to sprout, and one day after years, you just wake up a full fledged Nazi like Ye did. Bad experiences with other races or cultures could cause grudges to build up and someones heart to harden. All determinism.

(December 24, 2022 at 4:08 am)Deesse23 Wrote:

(December 23, 2022 at 12:05 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: I'm aware the bad white people to bad Jewish people in the US thing in not a one to one comparison, as non-Jewish whites are the majority of the country, while Jews are far from that. So, let's shift to a Jewish majority country. Israel. Should bad Israelis be called out as "Jew", and should the other races in Israel be bringing up the "problem of the Jew"? If you answer yes, then and only then, will I see you as being logically consistent.

"Jew" is not a race, you racist pig.

Some of them consider it their race. Most Jews in America identify as white Jews, but some American Jews (with white skin) still prefer to just go by Jewish and be separate from whites. Also, they see it as something passed down from birth, whether one is atheist or believer. We'll call it ethnicity then. Does that make you happy?

(December 24, 2022 at 11:22 am)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: Where is your evidence that things in life are chosen consciously? That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence, right my dude? You're sounding an awful lot like a Christian right now.

Ever been to an AA meeting? Ever decide what to wear? No? Are you that unconscious?

(December 24, 2022 at 11:22 am)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: No one wakes up one day choosing to be racist. It just happens. Could happen over the course of months or years.

I don't think it "just happens". I think it's taught, by people we love and look up to as children, by peer pressure again in our youth, by social mores.

(December 24, 2022 at 11:22 am)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: A little seed of hatred planted here and there, waiting to sprout, and one day after years, you just wake up a full fledged Nazi like Ye did. Bad experiences with other races or cultures could cause grudges to build up and someones heart to harden. All determinism.

So? He's still a bigoted scumbag, and so is anyone who shares his views. He doesn't have to think the way he does. The human brain is plastic and susceptible to reprogramming, as any Psychology 101 student can tell you.