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RE: Russia and Ukraine
June 24, 2023 at 4:50 am
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(June 18, 2023 at 3:02 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: (June 11, 2023 at 4:04 am)Leonardo17 Wrote: I don’t agree with that. I was born in 1981. I visited Bulgaria in the time of the socialist dictator Todor Jivkov (1919-1998). I saw people with Turkish origin queuing in front of our embassy to get a visa to Turkey. I saw the very same people moving back to Bulgaria after the end of communism when Bulgaria became a part of the EU in 2007.
What your generation doesn’t know is the issue of true communism. So yes, Stalin was a dictator and a mass murderer. But there is an element that makes him different from Putin (or even Mussolini). Stalin was a believer in what we call “Proletariat dictatorship”. So live was not very easy in Bulgaria in the end of the 80’s. But people had more money than they could afford. In east Germany for instance people were queuing for something. When you asked them what they were waiting for, they would tell you that “if all these people are waiting there has to be something at the end of the queue”.
What exactly does when you were born have to do with any of this? And how do you know what Winter's age is? And WTF does it matter?
I have a child who was born in 1981, as well as one earlier than that and one later. That means I am definitely not part your self-proclaimed oh-so-important generation.
Slow you roll a bit Scooter. You don't know the people here as well as you think you do.
If you are a baby-boomer than you must have understood what I meant in this post. I assumed that this Winterhold should be a millennial or a generation-Z if you prefer.
So I wanted to emphasize the deep difference between the Russian Federation and what we called The Communist Block. I did refer to my own experience just to underline that I saw what was happening at the time in these countries rather than just having some theoretical knowledge on the issue.
In more simple terms: Gorbatchev was nothing like Vladimir Putin and the Russian Federation is nothing like the Soviet Union. The second was a superpower. It represented an ideology. A different world-view with an alternative approach to how society should work. It was allowed to use word like “imperialists”, “capitalists”, “Decadent West” etc. toward the West because it was truly based on an alternative system that Karl Marx called The Proletariat Dictatorship.
Now Putin is using the same terminology toward the Collective West and I am the one who is asking “What do you mean by that?”. Russia is a society with the greatest unequalities in the world. It’s not a Model anymore. It’s not a socialist state. It’s economy is a market economy. So what exactly is happening here? What does it have that the West doesn’t have?
And I believe this to be a very important issue. I don’t like to see these populists having some fairy tale arguments like this. So I’m the one who is pointing at the king and is saying “the king is naked” if you like.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
June 24, 2023 at 4:54 am
A civil war may have just begun. Eugeny Prigozhin has started an armed mutiny. Putin vows to crush him.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/wagner-head-s...37006.html
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
June 24, 2023 at 5:17 am
(June 21, 2023 at 6:40 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (June 21, 2023 at 6:29 pm)Nishant Xavier Wrote: It's not the amount (or % of military budget) that matters, but rather the speed of delivery that saves lives. The War started on Feb 24, 2022. F-16s and the rest should have been in play by the end of 2022 or beginning of 2023 at the latest.
"Former Defense Secretary Robert Gates criticized the Biden administration for the pace it's taking to approve weapons systems to Ukraine, given that the embattled country is the "most important" foreign policy issue the U.S. is facing "right now."
Go here https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_...ry%202022.
Click on the ‘Donors’ section. Scroll down to ‘United States’. Read through the list and learn how much military aid was delivered to Ukraine in the first three months of the war. Then, expand your myopic horizons and learn what US military assets were in place before the war started.
Mr. Gates is as far off on this as you are.
Boru
+ The Patriot air-defense systems are very effective. Russia is unable to hit Ukrainian infrastructure as often as before these systems were deployed in Ukraine (despite air and Naval superiority etc.).
https://www.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-missi...44303.html
(But since Emperor Belisarius who turned the 1500 year old Hagia Sophia back into a cult place opted for the Soviet Era S-300’s instead there must be something with these missiles that Ordinary who do not receive guidance from God do not understand.)
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
June 24, 2023 at 5:20 am
(June 24, 2023 at 4:54 am)Leonardo17 Wrote: A civil war may have just begun. Eugeny Prigozhin has started an armed mutiny. Putin vows to crush him.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/wagner-head-s...37006.html
Am I enjoying this too much?
Should I feel sorry for the Republican Party for potentially losing their primary sponsor?
Nah.
I'm gonna have a beer and laugh my arse off.
I wonder if China will intervene on Putin's behalf?
Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:
"You did WHAT? With WHO? WHERE???"
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
June 24, 2023 at 6:51 am
(June 24, 2023 at 4:54 am)Leonardo17 Wrote: A civil war may have just begun. Eugeny Prigozhin has started an armed mutiny. Putin vows to crush him.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/wagner-head-s...37006.html
I for one am completely shocked - shocked, I tellz ya! - by this development. The idea that a mercenary force (which have historically been noted for their loyalty, fidelity, and patriotism) would turn on their employer is unprecedented.*
Boru
* vdws
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
June 24, 2023 at 7:35 am
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
June 24, 2023 at 9:17 am
The trouble, is that Prigo is telling the truth and the Russian people know it.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
June 24, 2023 at 9:26 am
(June 24, 2023 at 6:51 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (June 24, 2023 at 4:54 am)Leonardo17 Wrote: A civil war may have just begun. Eugeny Prigozhin has started an armed mutiny. Putin vows to crush him.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/wagner-head-s...37006.html
I for one am completely shocked - shocked, I tellz ya! - by this development. The idea that a mercenary force (which have historically been noted for their loyalty, fidelity, and patriotism) would turn on their employer is unprecedented.*
Boru
*vdws
A mercenary force with a high percentage of ex-convicts, at that.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
June 24, 2023 at 10:21 am
Most of the convicts are rotting on the streets of bakhmut
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Russia and Ukraine
June 24, 2023 at 10:57 am
The East-Coast must have already learned it. For those in the West-Coast, you are indeed waking up to a Russia in Civil war:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/wagner-head-s...37006.html
I can’t say I am very sad about it. But what if this maniac wins and gets to control Russia’s nukes?
I am sure that people in the pentagon (and in all ministries of defense around the world) must be very busy right now.
+ I have this habit of making seemingly unrelated remarks about some issues and I am aware of it but…
How come there was absolutely nothing about these whole series of events in the Centuries of Nostradamus?
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