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[Quranic Reflection] : "Joseph; he came to you before with the clear proofs".
August 14, 2023 at 4:43 am
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In the Quran, it was mentioned clearly that the "Pharaoh" in Moses's story ruled after Joseph's era:
Quote:Sura 40, The Quran:
https://quran.com/40?startingVerse=28
(28) A believing man from Pharaoh’s people, who was hiding his faith, argued, “Will you kill a man1 ˹only˺ for saying: ‘My Lord is Allah,’ while he has in fact come to you with clear proofs from your Lord? If he is a liar, it will be to his own loss. But if he is truthful, then you will be afflicted with some of what he is threatening you with. Surely Allah does not guide whoever is a transgressor, a total liar.
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(44) Joseph already came to you earlier with clear proofs, yet you never ceased to doubt what he came to you with. When he died you said, ‘Allah will never send a messenger after him.’ This is how Allah leaves every transgressor and doubter to stray—
It was highly speculated that the Pharoh of Moses is nothing but the infamous Ramesses II.
Ramesses II came after Akhnaten, that worshiped a single God defined by being the light of the universe; you can find details in my previous topic.
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RE: [Quranic Reflection] : "Joseph; he came to you before with the clear proofs".
August 14, 2023 at 5:05 am
(August 14, 2023 at 4:43 am)WinterHold Wrote: In the Quran, it was mentioned clearly that the "Pharaoh" in Moses's story ruled after Joseph's era:
Quote:Sura 40, The Quran:
https://quran.com/40?startingVerse=28
(28) A believing man from Pharaoh’s people, who was hiding his faith, argued, “Will you kill a man1 ˹only˺ for saying: ‘My Lord is Allah,’ while he has in fact come to you with clear proofs from your Lord? If he is a liar, it will be to his own loss. But if he is truthful, then you will be afflicted with some of what he is threatening you with. Surely Allah does not guide whoever is a transgressor, a total liar.
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(44) Joseph already came to you earlier with clear proofs, yet you never ceased to doubt what he came to you with. When he died you said, ‘Allah will never send a messenger after him.’ This is how Allah leaves every transgressor and doubter to stray—
It was highly speculated that the Pharoh of Moses is nothing but the infamous Ramesses II.
Ramesses II came after Akhnaten, that worshiped a single God defined by being the light of the universe; you can find details in my previous topic.
This is all very confusing. Why bring up Joseph, Akhenaten, and Ramesses? Allah wasn't even invented until the 7th century.
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RE: [Quranic Reflection] : "Joseph; he came to you before with the clear proofs".
August 14, 2023 at 5:38 am
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One minor problem for these clear proof Winter. Neither Akhenaten nor Ramesses chased down an army of runaway jews.
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RE: [Quranic Reflection] : "Joseph; he came to you before with the clear proofs".
August 14, 2023 at 12:53 pm
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(August 14, 2023 at 5:05 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (August 14, 2023 at 4:43 am)WinterHold Wrote: In the Quran, it was mentioned clearly that the "Pharaoh" in Moses's story ruled after Joseph's era:
It was highly speculated that the Pharoh of Moses is nothing but the infamous Ramesses II.
Ramesses II came after Akhnaten, that worshiped a single God defined by being the light of the universe; you can find details in my previous topic.
This is all very confusing. Why bring up Joseph, Akhenaten, and Ramesses? Allah wasn't even invented until the 7th century.
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Allah = The Father = Yahweh
The same entity; known in different cultures with different names.
I suspect that even Heathens worshiped the same entity but applied "fragmentation" to his unity; take the Greeks; they knew Allah/The father/Yahweh, but fragmented his unity into so many mini-Gods.
It's even mentioned explicitly in the Quran:
Quote:Sura 43, The Quran:
https://quran.com/43?startingVerse=15
(15) Still the pagans have made some of His creation out to be a part of Him.1 Indeed, humankind is clearly ungrateful.
For example, the Greeks. They take "God's strength"; assign it to a seprate entity called "Mars"; calling Mars "the God of war"; a piece of the original God yet a separate one.
They build a temple for "Mars"; they say Mars is holy, because Mars is a piece of God.
Humankind is indeed ungrateful to God.
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RE: [Quranic Reflection] : "Joseph; he came to you before with the clear proofs".
August 14, 2023 at 1:14 pm
(August 14, 2023 at 4:43 am)WinterHold Wrote: In the Quran, it was mentioned clearly that the "Pharaoh" in Moses's story ruled after Joseph's era:
Quote:Sura 40, The Quran:
https://quran.com/40?startingVerse=28
(28) A believing man from Pharaoh’s people, who was hiding his faith, argued, “Will you kill a man1 ˹only˺ for saying: ‘My Lord is Allah,’ while he has in fact come to you with clear proofs from your Lord? If he is a liar, it will be to his own loss. But if he is truthful, then you will be afflicted with some of what he is threatening you with. Surely Allah does not guide whoever is a transgressor, a total liar.
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(44) Joseph already came to you earlier with clear proofs, yet you never ceased to doubt what he came to you with. When he died you said, ‘Allah will never send a messenger after him.’ This is how Allah leaves every transgressor and doubter to stray—
It was highly speculated that the Pharoh of Moses is nothing but the infamous Ramesses II.
Ramesses II came after Akhnaten, that worshiped a single God defined by being the light of the universe; you can find details in my previous topic.
You really don't understand your audience or how to read a room, do you? 
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RE: [Quranic Reflection] : "Joseph; he came to you before with the clear proofs".
August 14, 2023 at 1:14 pm
(August 14, 2023 at 5:38 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: One minor problem for these clear proof Winter. Neither Akhenaten nor Ramesses chased down an army of runaway jews.
Ramesses 2 drowned at sea:
https://www.quora.com/Is-it-true-that-th...s-II-mummy
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RE: [Quranic Reflection] : "Joseph; he came to you before with the clear proofs".
August 14, 2023 at 1:29 pm
allah must be very proud of how stupid his followers are
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RE: [Quranic Reflection] : "Joseph; he came to you before with the clear proofs".
August 14, 2023 at 2:12 pm
(August 14, 2023 at 1:14 pm)WinterHold Wrote: (August 14, 2023 at 5:38 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: One minor problem for these clear proof Winter. Neither Akhenaten nor Ramesses chased down an army of runaway jews.
Ramesses 2 drowned at sea:
https://www.quora.com/Is-it-true-that-th...s-II-mummy
I doubt he was chasing Jews in a chariot at 90 years old with a bad back and a potentially fatal mouth infection; then drowned in the Red Sea and got his body recovered and mummified. Maybe he drowned, but even if so, that isn't how it happened.
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RE: [Quranic Reflection] : "Joseph; he came to you before with the clear proofs".
August 14, 2023 at 2:24 pm
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Since when did quora become worth citing as a source?
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RE: [Quranic Reflection] : "Joseph; he came to you before with the clear proofs".
August 14, 2023 at 2:42 pm
(August 14, 2023 at 1:14 pm)WinterHold Wrote: (August 14, 2023 at 5:38 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: One minor problem for these clear proof Winter. Neither Akhenaten nor Ramesses chased down an army of runaway jews.
Ramesses 2 drowned at sea:
https://www.quora.com/Is-it-true-that-th...s-II-mummy
No, he didn’t. The salt in the mummy wasn’t sea salt. And - as has been mentioned - Ramesses II was in no condition to lead an army that was chasing Jews who were never there to begin with.
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