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RE: Is Trump going to Prison?
September 27, 2023 at 12:44 am
(September 26, 2023 at 11:52 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote: trump being jailed for mere state crimes implies to the observer that at national level there is not the wherewithal to hold ring leader of armed insurrection against itself to account. it means to those who are keeping their powders dry while waiting to seei whether national insurrection can be a viable strategy would see the strategy to still be a viable strategy, just need better ground work and more tactical planning.
basically it says the national government is not able to defend itself against insurrection and punish the would be insurrectionist, and must subcontract the job.
Let’s face it, the 2021 impeachment probably showcased that all too well.
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RE: Is Trump going to Prison?
September 27, 2023 at 12:50 am
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impeachment is not a judicial proceedure but a legislative process in the form of judicial proceeding. the judicial proceedure’s credibility comes from it being supposedly less political and more capable of giving well connected criminal political hacks their due. it supposedly back stop the system against political criminality. in addition the hack who seeks private gain by rallying the shameless can’t be daunted by the disgrace of impeachment. but he will be daunted by the prospect of taking all the rest of his showers in jail.
if the federal government can’t put him there, then those who seek to leverage such hacks could even more easily make it safe for him in states because they can more easily subvert the entire judicial system of a state than the judicial system of the country.
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RE: Is Trump going to Prison?
September 27, 2023 at 2:21 am
if trump is not jailed for federal offense but merely state offenses, then the United states would be like a ship that, instead of sinking after being fatally holed by an iceberg, somehow got hung up on the iceberg and thus avoided sinking. it would merely perpetuate the myth of its unsinkability while obscuring the lethal nature of the damage it could sustain and the need for fundamental structural improvement to improve its survivability.
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RE: Is Trump going to Prison?
September 27, 2023 at 6:08 am
(September 27, 2023 at 12:50 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: impeachment is not a judicial proceedure but a legislative process in the form of judicial proceeding. the judicial proceedure’s credibility comes from it being supposedly less political and more capable of giving well connected criminal political hacks their due. it supposedly back stop the system against political criminality. in addition the hack who seeks private gain by rallying the shameless can’t be daunted by the disgrace of impeachment. but he will be daunted by the prospect of taking all the rest of his showers in jail.
if the federal government can’t put him there, then those who seek to leverage such hacks could even more easily make it safe for him in states because they can more easily subvert the entire judicial system of a state than the judicial system of the country.
I’m not convinced that it’s any easier to subvert a state judiciary than a federal one. It would certainly be cheaper, though.
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RE: Is Trump going to Prison?
September 27, 2023 at 6:28 am
A few yacht trips and some free rent, tops? It’s not like we’re talking -real- money.
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RE: Is Trump going to Prison?
September 27, 2023 at 8:10 am
(September 26, 2023 at 11:57 pm)Foxaèr Wrote: A world where you can make more money as a lawyer defending criminals implies a deeply flawed justice system.
Yeah, whoever thought up the idea of a fair trial was a twit. 
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RE: Is Trump going to Prison?
September 29, 2023 at 8:43 pm
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RE: Is Trump going to Prison?
October 5, 2023 at 6:08 pm
So, apparently, Trump is making a motion to get them to dismiss the DC indictment charges.
What are the odds of that succeeding?
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RE: Is Trump going to Prison?
October 5, 2023 at 6:31 pm
(October 5, 2023 at 6:08 pm)ShinyCrystals Wrote: So, apparently, Trump is making a motion to get them to dismiss the DC indictment charges.
What are the odds of that succeeding?
Roughly the same as being struck by lightning twice while you’re on the way to collect your lottery winnings after getting 18 holes-in-one on a round of golf.
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RE: Is Trump going to Prison?
October 5, 2023 at 6:43 pm
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(October 5, 2023 at 6:31 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (October 5, 2023 at 6:08 pm)ShinyCrystals Wrote: So, apparently, Trump is making a motion to get them to dismiss the DC indictment charges.
What are the odds of that succeeding?
Roughly the same as being struck by lightning twice while you’re on the way to collect your lottery winnings after getting 18 holes-in-one on a round of golf.
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I am thinking the same thing.
By the way, here is the news article I forgot to post that has to do with what I asked.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-...-election/
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