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RE: How you feeling about "Baby Reindeer" and it goes against Sigmund Freud beliefs
August 5, 2024 at 8:40 pm
And about the entertainment industry, well, here's something from RationalWiki that sums it up:
Quote:The bottom line is that Hollywood is run by major corporations. Whatever the personal convictions of individual movie stars may be, the real movers and shakers in Hollywood are the CEOs, chairpersons, and executives of the studios. They make movies with liberal messages because they will make money in the blue states, just as they make movies with conservative messages (such as the aforementioned Transformers movies, American Sniper, Red Dawn, etc.) because those will make money in the red states.[26] If Hollywood is liberal, then it is classically liberal, its chief ideology being rooted in profit and keeping the censors off their backs. Since, for nearly a century, it has been culturally conservative Christian activists who have led the calls for censorship, Hollywood has long had practical, bread-and-butter reasons to distrust right-wing politics, and so its culture, if not among the studio heads then certainly among the filmmakers and actors, has gravitated to left-leaning liberalism almost by default. That being said, they are a privately-owned-and-run industry, and they're no fans of socialism; during the '80s, they adored Ronald Reagan (a former Hollywood actor) and embraced his nostalgic, free-wheeling, flag-waving, pro-capitalist brand of conservatism
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Hollywood_values
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RE: How you feeling about "Baby Reindeer" and it goes against Sigmund Freud beliefs
August 5, 2024 at 8:45 pm
(August 5, 2024 at 8:36 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Freud is a pretty easy balloon to pop.
Honestly, Freud's work says more about Freud (or maybe the repression of the 19th Century) than humankind in general.
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RE: How you feeling about "Baby Reindeer" and it goes against Sigmund Freud beliefs
August 5, 2024 at 8:46 pm
(August 5, 2024 at 8:38 pm)Silver Wrote: (August 5, 2024 at 8:36 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Freud is a pretty easy balloon to pop.
And he'd say who you really wanna pop is either your mum or dad.
He's free to speak for himself. He seems to believe in luggage, but I've learn in my own life that the past doesn't own me.
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RE: How you feeling about "Baby Reindeer" and it goes against Sigmund Freud beliefs
August 5, 2024 at 8:49 pm
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RE: How you feeling about "Baby Reindeer" and it goes against Sigmund Freud beliefs
August 5, 2024 at 8:51 pm
(August 5, 2024 at 8:49 pm)no one Wrote: Happiness, is a warm gun.
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RE: How you feeling about "Baby Reindeer" and it goes against Sigmund Freud beliefs
August 5, 2024 at 9:58 pm
IMO the OP sounds like something a sexually repressed person would say.
Also, was 'bi product' an intentional pun or simply a Freudian slip?
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RE: How you feeling about "Baby Reindeer" and it goes against Sigmund Freud beliefs
August 6, 2024 at 2:17 am
(August 5, 2024 at 7:58 pm)Reinard9 Wrote: The idea that you can be happy if sexual repression is solved etc.
Now what this TV series on Netflix does well on is. It criticize both atheist liberal media industry, whether its Hollywood. But also religious institutions like Catholic Church.
Whether its drug rape in hollywood or whether its pedophilia incident in Catholic Church.
Overall the issue is finding yourself, and thinking having sex with one you love can solve the problems. But it doesnt. Because it is just a bi product of something. Its not who you truly are. What you truly are is you. Friends, family, people or meaningful things.
So i am glad how honest this series is.
I think you're using Freud's name here as a kind of metonym, to refer to the idea that repression makes us unhappy and we can be happy if we bring up what's been repressed.
Your use of the term makes sense, since this idea is associated with Freud in the popular mind. But we should probably be aware that Freud himself would never agree with such a simple view.
Granted, he thought that repressed desires can make us miserable. Nothing which is repressed truly disappears, and it may well return in another form, as a symptom. In fact, a symptom, for Freud, is generally a socially unacceptable way of attempting to deal with a problem.
But the idea that the problems caused by repression can be solved simply by bringing the repressed desire back to the surface and acting on it is far too simple. In fact people often repress things because they really shouldn't be acted on -- though they need to be dealt with in a different way than repression.
I think the "let it all hang out" view of dealing with repression is a post-Freud thing that mostly comes from post-War America. Certain psychologists and gurus led groups of uninhibited people thinking that it would make them happy to show absolutely everything. The cliche of the repressed '50s housewife versus the hippy with no inhibitions comes from this.
And now that you mention it, the simplified view is much more suitable to Hollywood than to a subtle thinker like Freud. Hollywood demands Hollywood endings, in which problems are solved in the space of a 90-minute story. The sort of never-quite-resolved managing of melancholy that Freud envisioned would never make a good Hollywood movie.
(But I've never heard of the "Baby Reindeer" show before, so I can't comment on that!)
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RE: How you feeling about "Baby Reindeer" and it goes against Sigmund Freud beliefs
August 6, 2024 at 4:14 am
(August 5, 2024 at 7:58 pm)Reinard9 Wrote: The idea that you can be happy if sexual repression is solved etc.
Now what this TV series on Netflix does well on is. It criticize both atheist liberal media industry, whether its Hollywood. But also religious institutions like Catholic Church.
Whether its drug rape in hollywood or whether its pedophilia incident in Catholic Church.
Overall the issue is finding yourself, and thinking having sex with one you love can solve the problems. But it doesnt. Because it is just a bi product of something. Its not who you truly are. What you truly are is you. Friends, family, people or meaningful things.
So i am glad how honest this series is.
Why would you separate 'having sex with the one you love' from 'meaningful things'?
For the record, I can think of at least one problem sex solves. Every time.
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RE: How you feeling about "Baby Reindeer" and it goes against Sigmund Freud beliefs
August 6, 2024 at 11:15 am
Yeah, get's her off my back!
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RE: How you feeling about "Baby Reindeer" and it goes against Sigmund Freud beliefs
August 6, 2024 at 5:24 pm
I haven't had sex in at least ten years, and I'm not bothered by it.
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