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2024 US Presidential Election
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Its just been announced: The german coalition has failed. Scholz to address the nation within the next hour. We will have elections very, very soon. Guess which party will be the bigly winner.
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(November 6, 2024 at 11:17 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:
(November 6, 2024 at 8:53 am)arewethereyet Wrote: That doesn't mean he will leave quietly.  We can only hope that four years will be too many Big Macs for him.

At this point I hope he lives out his term. If he dies, we get Vance for who knows how long -- but long enough to cement the destruction of our democracy. I believe that this will be the last free and fair election I'll see in my lifetime.

I don't see that being the case at all. I don't see any evidence the Trump administration would do anything to impact the electoral process to the extent that one could argue such a thing?
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Other than the odd attempted coup, obvs.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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(November 6, 2024 at 6:56 pm)Aegon Wrote:
(November 6, 2024 at 11:17 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: At this point I hope he lives out his term. If he dies, we get Vance for who knows how long -- but long enough to cement the destruction of our democracy. I believe that this will be the last free and fair election I'll see in my lifetime.

I don't see that being the case at all. I don't see any evidence the Trump administration would do anything to impact the electoral process to the extent that one could argue such a thing?

1) SCOTUS has immunized him against acts in office that are illegal.
2) Trump, or Vance if Trump dies in power, rounds up opponents in advance of 2028.
3) ?
4) Profit!

(November 6, 2024 at 7:12 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Other than the odd attempted coup, obvs.

Because it's an official act. "National security" yadayadayada.

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(November 6, 2024 at 5:41 pm)Angrboda Wrote: Thinking things through this morning, while it's comforting to focus on the details at hand, ultimately this is a result of the interplay between our systems of governance and human nature.  Democracy is an imperfect system.  Every few years, instead of looking to preserve what few successes we managed, we focus on the problems that remain and look for someone to blame for the way we feel.  Democracy, at least as practiced in the United States, is reactionary.  Without a more informed and wise electorate, which is a limit imposed by our nature, we likely can expect regime change after regime change after regime change.  Democracy is not an ideal system, at least not in its current form.  Could it be a good solution, with just a few tweaks here and there?  Maybe.  For now though, the problem of governance will remain for all of us.  All we can do is accept the progress we've made, and not fear and dread the reversals.  Is this the end of democracy in the U.S.?  Perhaps.  But if it is, what replaces it will be temporary as well.  Nothing lasts.  Nothing is finished.  And nothing is perfect.  The best we can do is hope for the future.

In Thea Alexander’s book 2150 AD, they have an AI that is responsible of governing the colony where the events are happening.

   Also in 2150 BC people had God-Kings with all the magical rituals that were supposed to transform the Pharaoh into some sort of channel for the universal energies to rule the country directly. Smile
 
   Apart from that, I used to think it’s about education. But it’s not education. If it was education Brexit would never happen, the AFD would not get so positive results, France would not need to politically isolate its own far-right movement. A mad man like Javier Milei could not even dream of becoming a president (if you ask me).
 
   In the 70’s, 80’s and even the first half of the 90’s, the less satisfied layers of society (factory workers, people with low paying jobs, small scale farmers, owners of small businesses etc.) would vote for left wing parties when they were dissatisfied with the government. Today when they are impoverished because of ultra-liberal policies (I’m specifically thinking of Emmanuel Macron here) they simply go and vote for even more liberal political parties thinking that the populist guy is more likely to understand their low or middle class problems.  
 
   So there is this change of dynamics in the world of politics. And right wing parties all over the world seem to understand these dynamics better than older more traditional types of politicians.   
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Biden isn't to blame. The neo-conservative people are.
"What a little moonlight can do." ~ Billie Holiday
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In a historic sense, sure...neocons greatly contributed to the current moment... but in the present they've been exiled by king donald. Going forward democrats will have to shoulder this for the same reason neocons do. They've spent years pointing out that donny is a fascist and an existential threat to america..today, they're shaking his hand and wishing him good luck.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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Zooming in on the blue states, it becomes obvious that the red is slowly overtaking even them. I'm fairly certain there might be no recovery for democracy in a country that favors regression.
"What a little moonlight can do." ~ Billie Holiday
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