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RE: Noteworthy News
January 4, 2026 at 7:05 am
(January 4, 2026 at 5:35 am)Rev. Rye Wrote: (January 4, 2026 at 3:25 am)Belacqua Wrote: US-backed regime changes in Latin America:
Mexico 1846–1848
Cuba 1898
Panama 1903
Cuba 1906–1909
Nicaragua 1909
Nicaragua 1912–1933
Mexico 1913
Mexico 1914
Haiti 1915
Dominican Republic 1916–1924
Mexico 1916–1917
El Salvador 1932
Cuba 1933–1940s
Guatemala 1944
Bolivia 1946
Costa Rica 1948
Cuba 1952
1953–1954 – British Guiana
Guatemala 1954
Paraguay 1954
Haiti 1959
Peru 1962
Brazil 1964
Dominican Republic 1965
Chile 1973
Uruguay 1973
Peru again 1975
Argentina 1976
Nicaragua 1980s
Bolivia 1980s
Jamaica 1980s
El Salvador 1980
Grenada 1983
Panama 1989
Venezuela 2002
Haiti again 2004
Honduras 2009
Bolivia 2019
And what is this supposed to prove? ANYONE who's looked into the history of Latin America in the past 200 years knows it's been a history of American meddling.
I'm glad that you're aware of this. Not everyone keeps it in mind.
Since we're all currently mad at Trump, it's probably best to remember that what he's doing is normal for US presidents.
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RE: Noteworthy News
January 4, 2026 at 7:32 am
Venezuela is because of BRICS expansion. The Soviets agreed not to expand so close to the US - why is BRICS escalating world war 3?
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RE: Noteworthy News
January 4, 2026 at 7:39 am
(January 4, 2026 at 7:05 am)Belacqua Wrote: (January 4, 2026 at 5:35 am)Rev. Rye Wrote: And what is this supposed to prove? ANYONE who's looked into the history of Latin America in the past 200 years knows it's been a history of American meddling.
I'm glad that you're aware of this. Not everyone keeps it in mind.
Since we're all currently mad at Trump, it's probably best to remember that what he's doing is normal for US presidents.
For every Smedley Butler, there are a hundred "Thank You For Your Service" types.
Not quite normal. The closest thing we had to a precedent for this was Noriega, but at least we had the decency to indict Noriega on real charges and not just randomly abduct him.
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RE: Noteworthy News
January 4, 2026 at 8:18 am
(January 4, 2026 at 7:39 am)Rev. Rye Wrote: Not quite normal. The closest thing we had to a precedent for this was Noriega, but at least we had the decency to indict Noriega on real charges and not just randomly abduct him.
Yes, that makes sense.
Each regime change, each theft of natural resources, is a little different. Justifications and results vary.
Trump is maybe the first to not bother with any kind of political theater or justification. We want it, we're tough, we take it.
I'm curious what will happen to the unfortunate Venezuelans who now live on top of Trump's oil. I hope their country doesn't collapse into chaos, as happened in other US interventions.
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RE: Noteworthy News
January 4, 2026 at 8:54 am
Illegal or not, it is the American way.
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RE: Noteworthy News
January 4, 2026 at 11:05 am
(January 4, 2026 at 7:05 am)Belacqua Wrote: (January 4, 2026 at 5:35 am)Rev. Rye Wrote: And what is this supposed to prove? ANYONE who's looked into the history of Latin America in the past 200 years knows it's been a history of American meddling.
I'm glad that you're aware of this. Not everyone keeps it in mind.
Since we're all currently mad at Trump, it's probably best to remember that what he's doing is normal for US presidents.
For every Smedley Butler, there are a hundred "Thank You For Your Service" types.
FWIW, American interventionism is top-of-mind for a great majority of non-USians.
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RE: Noteworthy News
January 4, 2026 at 11:09 am
(January 4, 2026 at 8:18 am)Belacqua Wrote: (January 4, 2026 at 7:39 am)Rev. Rye Wrote: Not quite normal. The closest thing we had to a precedent for this was Noriega, but at least we had the decency to indict Noriega on real charges and not just randomly abduct him.
Yes, that makes sense.
Each regime change, each theft of natural resources, is a little different. Justifications and results vary.
Trump is maybe the first to not bother with any kind of political theater or justification. We want it, we're tough, we take it.
I'm curious what will happen to the unfortunate Venezuelans who now live on top of Trump's oil. I hope their country doesn't collapse into chaos, as happened in other US interventions.
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So do I. But people who know more about this than I do are saying that a Venezuelan civil war is a real possibility depending largely on who Trump anoints as a successor to Maduro.
Not to mention that Trump’s promise to station US troops on Venezuelan oil fields isn’t going to sit well with the citizens.
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RE: Noteworthy News
January 4, 2026 at 11:26 am
(This post was last modified: January 4, 2026 at 11:27 am by Deesse23.)
(January 4, 2026 at 11:05 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: (January 4, 2026 at 7:05 am)Belacqua Wrote: I'm glad that you're aware of this. Not everyone keeps it in mind.
Since we're all currently mad at Trump, it's probably best to remember that what he's doing is normal for US presidents.
For every Smedley Butler, there are a hundred "Thank You For Your Service" types.
FWIW, American interventionism is top-of-mind for a great majority of non-USians.
Boru Not only is he ignorant, he truly believes everyone else is even more ignorant than him.
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RE: Noteworthy News
January 4, 2026 at 11:37 am
(January 4, 2026 at 11:26 am)Deesse23 Wrote: (January 4, 2026 at 11:05 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: FWIW, American interventionism is top-of-mind for a great majority of non-USians.
Boru Not only is he ignorant, he truly believes everyone else is even more ignorant than him.
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RE: Noteworthy News
January 4, 2026 at 11:38 am
Early reports are that Trump intends to push Maduro's VP, Rodriguez. I don't suspect that would go well with most Venezuelans and the opposition.
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