(May 9, 2012 at 12:10 pm)Gooders1002 Wrote: I know one its needed for the other but what is the specify difference /similarities between the two?

Here's the basic thing:
Microevolution is the gradual adaptation and evolution by a species which does not result in multiple new species.
Macroevolution is the result of microevolution that takes place between two populations of a single species.

The creationist claim that the two are somehow different is flat-out bullshit.

Microevolution is a part of macroevolution, and both are a part of evolution. Microevolution is small incremental changes within a species or population over successive generations. When those incremental changes between two or more seperated gene pools within a species mount up over many generations to the point they can no longer interbreed, that is when microevolution becomes macroevolution. Macroevolution is when microevolution reaches the point of speciation and above. Those gene pools will continue to drift apart over many more generations until they have diverged into many new species, genera, tribes, families and so on. The different gene pools will continue to diverge as long as each lineage survives, and it will some day get to a point after thousands upon thousands of generations where these descendants will be completely different from their now distant ancestors.

Think of it this way:

Micro evolution is something creationists don't want to deny because some of them breed dogs. Macroevolution is something creationists want to deny because it highlights to them in sharp relief that the the rest of humanity have passed them by and evolved beyond the apes.

Macroevolution is a strawman which exists only in the blighted minds of crocoduck hunters!

(May 9, 2012 at 2:01 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Macroevolution is a strawman which exists only in the blighted minds of crocoduck hunters!

No, Macroevolution is real. Vast amounts of macroevolution actually exist between humans and creationists. Just because creationists never benefoited from any macroevolution doesn't mean its not real.

(May 9, 2012 at 2:01 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Macroevolution is a strawman which exists only in the blighted minds of crocoduck hunters!

I think it would be more accurate to say that the crockoduck hunters simply have no idea of what it really is.

(May 9, 2012 at 2:03 pm)Chuck Wrote:

(May 9, 2012 at 2:01 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Macroevolution is a strawman which exists only in the blighted minds of crocoduck hunters!

No, Macroevolution is real. Vast amounts of macroevolution actually exist between humans and creationists. Just because creationists never benefoited from any macroevolution doesn't mean its not real.

Not the way they mean it, Chuck. These fucking nuts really think a whale can give birth to a wolf.

(May 9, 2012 at 2:53 pm)Minimalist Wrote:

(May 9, 2012 at 2:03 pm)Chuck Wrote: No, Macroevolution is real. Vast amounts of macroevolution actually exist between humans and creationists. Just because creationists never benefoited from any macroevolution doesn't mean its not real.

Not the way they mean it, Chuck. These fucking nuts really think a whale can give birth to a wolf.

But a very dim witted monkey can give birth to a creationist after suitable inbreeding with other very dim witted monkeys.

That apparently happens all the time.

(May 9, 2012 at 12:25 pm)Gooders1002 Wrote: so basicly its all the same thing but on different time scale?

Not really. Micro-evolution is how a species adapts to changing conditions on a season per season basis. Macro-evolution is change deemed so necessary for the survival of a species that such change continues throughout the subsequent generations of that species.

For example, there are two types of moths in a species...one is darker and one is lighter. In years with high pollution, the white moth is more prone to be eaten by predators and the other moth of the same species succeeds. The next year, there is less pollution and the white moth is less prone to predators.

In macro-evolution, take the example of the proto-dolphins living 50-60 million years ago. There was a plethora of fish in the sea. Over-time, the members of the species more adapted to hunting in the sea passed on their genes to the next generation because of survival of the fittest. Over millions of years of this genetic testing by nature, we have the modern dolphin.