Anarchism, Fascism, Nationalism, Socialism, Communism, or a combination of 2, or more of these, or maybe something else entirely?

I'm classify myself as a progressive liberal socialist.

(July 19, 2012 at 11:10 pm)aleialoura Wrote: I'm classify myself as a progressive liberal socialist.

Well, chances are, if you "classify" yourself as that, it means you think it's best. What is your definition of...... progressive liberal socialism........ and why do you love it, so???

classical liberalism/libertarianism (in the U.S sense of the word) imo.



Anarchy? Nah. Minarchy! The nightwatchman state, woo!!!!!!

That or this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Xd_zkMEgkI

I don't really know which label fits best. I am politically quite liberal, and socially progressive. I believe that the best possible economic system would be an ideal balance of socialism and capitalism. I'm a shameless idealist and I want what would do the best for the most number of people.

(July 19, 2012 at 10:59 pm)cratehorus Wrote: Anarchism, Fascism, Nationalism, Socialism, Communism, or a combination of 2, or more of these, or maybe something else entirely?

I have yet to discover a political ideology which is workable in its pure form.That's why I call myself a pluralist,but in the sense of using whatever works,rather than in a classical ideological sense.

I'm quite happy with the system currently being used in Australia .IE a form of regulated capitalism with some socialist elements.

Because your list is missing individualism and collectivism, you may find them fascinating if you are not already familiar. Here is a 5-part series explaining a popular view of them. They are a trip to watch.
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Political philosophies rest on ethics. A modern liberal might argue that redistribution of wealth is compassionate and for the greater good, which is really an ethical argument. A right libertarian may emphasize that theft is wrong, which is an ethical argument. The liberals might say that banks are exploitative and extracting labor from the backs of the less fortunate, which is an ethics-related challenge. Or, the arguments might go back and forth by trying to prove the consequences of a political policy, such as a dispute about the logical outcome of an economic policy (e.g. Obamacare), but these arguments carry more weight in the eyes of a person who heavily embraces consequentlialism. Ethics can sometimes be challenged as being impossible to prove anything with reason, although Objectivists actually disagree. Objectivists, for example, claim they can start with the law of identity and prove morality (and ultimately capitalism) based on reason and reality.

If you want my personal views, I am a civil libertarian and probably more "liberal" in most areas, but I am a huge outlier among liberals. Most self-described "progressives" or "liberals" scare me because they look at a problem like inequality and are perfectly willing to act on emotions and write congress without mindfulness of what economic disasters they could cause. You can try to show them data, graphs, and explain arguments on both sides, but they will cling to a preconception like a Christian. Also, self-described "feminists" are all too often just haters of men, and I want to separate myself from them.

Quote:Political philosophies rest on ethics.

Which is why none of them work. Realpolitik is a based on one and only one principle; the ends justify the means.IE it is amoral.

(July 19, 2012 at 11:55 pm)goddamnit Wrote: Also, self-described "feminists" are all too often just haters of men, and I want to separate myself from them.

SO what political philosophy, are you saying is best?

(July 19, 2012 at 11:14 pm)cratehorus Wrote:

(July 19, 2012 at 11:10 pm)aleialoura Wrote: I'm classify myself as a progressive liberal socialist.

Well, chances are, if you "classify" yourself as that, it means you think it's best. What is your definition of...... progressive liberal socialism........ and why do you love it, so???

I envision a socialist democracy. A liberal, forward thinking government.