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RE: Why do you believe?
December 1, 2012 at 12:34 am
(December 1, 2012 at 12:10 am)The truth Wrote: (November 30, 2012 at 11:48 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Admit it...English is not your first language....or, you are from fucking Mississippi.
I see someone is frustrated lol And besides you wrote"( Feel free to present all the contemporary evidence for your Boy.)"That's better grammar? Stop the frustration please! Lol
(November 30, 2012 at 10:50 pm)Minimalist Wrote: You are wrong.
History is your worst enemy.
Show your evidence.
I'm waiting.
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RE: Why do you believe?
December 1, 2012 at 12:39 am
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(November 30, 2012 at 11:23 pm)The truth Wrote: Darkstar do you really need abscene proof or just hard facts to support history? Your statement is not true. Obviously there is no way to proove the ressurection of Christ. But there are many facts that support it. Facts? As in plural? I thought 'empty tomb', which doesn't even provide evidence for a ressurection, was the only one you had.
(November 30, 2012 at 11:23 pm)The truth Wrote: Notice I said historical facts. Notice you didn't say historical facts.
Or was that a sarcastic remark debasing your who argument?/sarcasm
(November 30, 2012 at 11:23 pm)The truth Wrote: Can you prove Darwin didn't think about accepting Christ on his death bed? No. But we can search the facts and go from there. What? What does that have to do with anything? Also, I don't think that Darwin was ever an atheist to begin with.
(November 30, 2012 at 11:23 pm)The truth Wrote: Can you prove what caused the big bang? No. No. No. Know that's funny. Can you provide evidence for what caused the big bang? No, not if it is anything more than a baseless assumption. That is, of course, assuming that the big bang could not have been spontaneous (I don't know enough on the subject to say). People trying to figure out the big bang uses science. Science works. Even if we can't yet prove anything about it, we have a far greater reason to believe we are right than you do. Also, if a god caused the big bang, it would only qualify as proof of Desim, not Christianity.
John Adams Wrote:The Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.
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RE: Why do you believe?
December 1, 2012 at 12:46 am
(November 30, 2012 at 11:16 pm)Voltron Wrote: If my grams told me a few days before her demise that she was going to rise from the dead...and later her remains came up a miss....I'd organize a posse to hunt down down the bastards that stole them.
That's the point. Christ didn't just say he was going to rise from the dead and later his remains were missing. Other's saw him and beheld him after his resurrection. They touched him. They talked with him. He talked back with them. This was a real life experience. This was face to face communication. And not just between the twelve but an entire five hundred people saw him at the same time. Your grams claim of resurrection would have needed an eye witness. But according to your statement there was no witness. So, sorry your grams lied. Better get the posse ready.
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RE: Why do you believe?
December 1, 2012 at 12:50 am
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(December 1, 2012 at 12:46 am)The truth Wrote: (November 30, 2012 at 11:16 pm)Voltron Wrote: If my grams told me a few days before her demise that she was going to rise from the dead...and later her remains came up a miss....I'd organize a posse to hunt down down the bastards that stole them.
That's the point. Christ didn't just say he was going to rise from the dead and later his remains were missing. Other's saw him and beheld him after his resurrection. They touched him. They talked with him. He talked back with them. This was a real life experience. This was face to face communication. And not just between the twelve but an entire five hundred people saw him at the same time. Your grams claim of resurrection would have needed an eye witness. But according to your statement there was no witness. So, sorry your grams lied. Better get the posse ready.
I saw his grams, and so did five hundred other people I won't name, and who won't come forward. What do I win? You can't prove I didn't.
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RE: Why do you believe?
December 1, 2012 at 12:53 am
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Quote:I see someone is frustrated lol And besides you wrote"( Feel free to present all the contemporary evidence for your Boy.)
Yes. It is only because you are relatively new. Otherwise I would have asked you to produce contemporary evidence for fucking jesus.
You do know what "contemporary" means, I hope?
Merriam-Webster's online dictionary can help if you do not.
Quote:I'm waiting.
There is none, stupid. That's the problem with you jesus freaks. You think your silly bible stories are real.
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RE: Why do you believe?
December 1, 2012 at 12:58 am
(December 1, 2012 at 12:46 am)The truth Wrote: (November 30, 2012 at 11:16 pm)Voltron Wrote: If my grams told me a few days before her demise that she was going to rise from the dead...and later her remains came up a miss....I'd organize a posse to hunt down down the bastards that stole them.
That's the point. Christ didn't just say he was going to rise from the dead and later his remains were missing. Other's saw him and beheld him after his resurrection. They touched him. They talked with him. He talked back with them. This was a real life experience. This was face to face communication. And not just between the twelve but an entire five hundred people saw him at the same time. Your grams claim of resurrection would have needed an eye witness. But according to your statement there was no witness. So, sorry your grams lied. Better get the posse ready.
So the difference is how many people witnessed the claim? What's the criteria?
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RE: Why do you believe?
December 1, 2012 at 1:22 am
(December 1, 2012 at 12:31 am)Voltron Wrote: (December 1, 2012 at 12:10 am)The truth Wrote: I see someone is frustrated lol And besides you wrote"( Feel free to present all the contemporary evidence for your Boy.)"That's better grammar? Stop the frustration please! Lol
I was able to understand his post the first time I read it. Your post on the other hand was a fucking mess.
Not you mighty voltron! Are you frustrated? There's a lot of tension! Are you saying this because I destroyed your debate? Lol you atheist are funny!
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RE: Why do you believe?
December 1, 2012 at 1:28 am
I have no reason to believe that the supposed "1000" witnesses isn't just another made up account.
All the best evidence on the growth rate of Christianity shows that it was just as tiny as the growth rate for other cults for its first 200 years.
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"The lord doesn't work in mysterious ways, but in ways that are indistinguishable from his nonexistence."
-- George Yorgo Veenhuyzen quoted by John W. Loftus in The End of Christianity (p. 103).
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RE: Why do you believe?
December 1, 2012 at 1:30 am
(December 1, 2012 at 12:58 am)Voltron Wrote: (December 1, 2012 at 12:46 am)The truth Wrote: That's the point. Christ didn't just say he was going to rise from the dead and later his remains were missing. Other's saw him and beheld him after his resurrection. They touched him. They talked with him. He talked back with them. This was a real life experience. This was face to face communication. And not just between the twelve but an entire five hundred people saw him at the same time. Your grams claim of resurrection would have needed an eye witness. But according to your statement there was no witness. So, sorry your grams lied. Better get the posse ready.
So the difference is how many people witnessed the claim? What's the criteria? You've answered it. More eye witnesses of a claim leaves us with greater evidence. Witness equals evidence I thought you knew that?
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RE: Why do you believe?
December 1, 2012 at 1:37 am
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(December 1, 2012 at 1:22 am)The truth Wrote: (December 1, 2012 at 12:31 am)Voltron Wrote: I was able to understand his post the first time I read it. Your post on the other hand was a fucking mess.
Not you mighty voltron! Are you frustrated? There's a lot of tension! Are you saying this because I destroyed your debate? Lol you atheist are funny!
If you're done being a fuck stick we may continue.
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