(January 25, 2013 at 12:54 pm)Violet Lilly Blossom Wrote:

(January 25, 2013 at 3:27 am)naimless Wrote: No, I haven't tried

eating babies, BDSM, having children, owning a slave, IEDs...

Then you still have more things to sort through Maybe you'll find worth in one of those

Just need to find someone to own as a slave. Could perform BDSM, have a baby, eat it, then blow it up.

ALAS, MEANING!

(January 25, 2013 at 1:07 pm)TaraJo Wrote: I've never really understood why life has to have a meaning.
Me, I just go out, enjoy life, try to make the world a little better and die a happy old lady. The rest is just details. Does that give life meaning? I don't care.

That sounds like a really cool experience of life.

In my experience the mere connotation of the word "meaningless" or the idea of there being no "meaning" makes me feel bad because I'm "greedy" and I want more than that. Also, I am suspicious of the idea that subjective meaning is separate to the universe and therefore I believe that meaning does actually exist since subjective meaning exists.

So, the way I interpret your post is that surely that, going out, enjoying life, trying to make the world a little better and dying happy is meaningful enough. That feels slightly better in my experience despite the fact that I am perfectly aware that I am merely interpreting things in such a way that I experience the placebo effect positively, merely by "labeling" things as "meaningful" for reinforcing the existence of my positive subjective experience that exists objectively in this existent world as a part or parts of or an aspect of or aspects of the imaginary objectively existent object of the subject of my imagination. This is only a contradiction if you equivocate different senses of the meaning of the word "objective of course. There is epistemological objectivity and ontological objectivity.

In my experience this is all pragmatically rational positive thinking for the purpose of subjectively experiencing the feeling of meaningfully happy living

(January 26, 2013 at 6:13 pm)naimless Wrote: Just need to find someone to own as a slave. Could perform BDSM, have a baby, eat it, then blow it up.

ALAS, MEANING!

It's not actually very hard to find someone and make them your slave... the rest is mostly just time-based.

(January 25, 2013 at 1:30 pm)Violet Lilly Blossom Wrote: Maybe not to you... but to a whole load of people out there: it sure as fuck beats the alternative.

Some people feel that way. Although unless there is an afterlife being dead is still not much fun. The potential fun to be had keeps me going.

Reminds me of Full Metal Jacket:

Private Joker - "The dead know only one thing: it is better to be alive."

The dead know fuck all. Oh it was a joke, right.

(January 26, 2013 at 6:48 pm)HalcyonicTrust Wrote: The dead know fuck all. Oh it was a joke, right.

More importantly I just love the film.

(January 26, 2013 at 6:43 pm)Insanity x Wrote: Private Joker - "The dead know only one thing: it is better to be alive."

To be alive? Oh yes... to hang onto a pathetic and wretched existence when there is no way out?

Not so much.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHAQW2ko6yI

(January 26, 2013 at 6:54 pm)Violet Lilly Blossom Wrote: To be alive? Oh yes... to hang onto a pathetic and wretched existence when there is no way out?

Not so much.

Video is unavailable here. Thats been happening a lot today.

Sure, I think those moments of hilarity and enjoyment are better than non-existence.

Although I guess once I kick the bucket I won't much care about funny things. Or anything else for that matter.

Guess it depends on how hilarious you find the world. If your somebody who suffers a lot in life perhaps being dead is a more appealing prospect. For me however, all the time I can laugh I'm happy to live.

If you do not live, you cannot take actions and make choices. If you live, you can choose to make positive changes to the world around you without much or any cost to yourself. If you can make positive changes to the world around you without much or any cost to yourself, you ought to. Therefore, you should live.

(February 1, 2013 at 9:09 pm)futilethewinds Wrote: If you can make positive changes to the world around you without much or any cost to yourself, you ought to.

Can you justify that?