So wait, not believing in any religion is a religion?

(March 19, 2013 at 7:10 pm)archangle Wrote:

(March 19, 2013 at 6:06 pm)TaraJo Wrote: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/03/1...=pulsenews



I wonder if these guys really understand what a religion is? It honestly doesn't look like it.

it is a religion.

Ok, I'll bite. How do you define a religion that atheism would qualify as one?

(March 19, 2013 at 10:12 pm)whateverist Wrote:

(March 19, 2013 at 8:39 pm)apophenia Wrote: There may be other frameworks that I'm unaware of, but Ninian Smart's seven part definition is probably one of the best and least controversial, but it's still very difficult to come to agreement on where on these seven criterion atheism actually lies.

Surely gods, personal or otherwise, aren't central to religion. Perhaps an intuition of purpose? I really do not know.

What the fuck are you talking about?

Yeah well if Fox News said it it's GOTTA be true... 9_9

(March 20, 2013 at 12:01 am)apophenia Wrote:

(March 19, 2013 at 10:12 pm)whateverist Wrote: Surely gods, personal or otherwise, aren't central to religion. Perhaps an intuition of purpose? I really do not know.

What the fuck are you talking about?

I meant I didn't find a definition in the source you provided. Then I went on to brainstorm some possible definitions of religion. Why, do you think gods are central to religion?

So what the fuck do you think religion is?

(March 20, 2013 at 12:57 am)whateverist Wrote: So what the fuck do you think religion is?

Hellifiknow.

(March 20, 2013 at 1:12 am)apophenia Wrote:

(March 20, 2013 at 12:57 am)whateverist Wrote: So what the fuck do you think religion is?

Hellifiknow.

C'mon. There's gonna be a quiz on this. Some other definitions I find on wiki include:

"There is no precise equivalent of "religion" in Hebrew, and Judaism does not distinguish clearly between religious, national, racial, or ethnic identities.[15] One of its central concepts is "halakha", sometimes translated as "law"", which guides religious practice and belief and many aspects of daily life."

"The anthropologist Clifford Geertz defined religion as a "system of symbols which acts to establish powerful, pervasive, and long-lasting moods and motivations in men by formulating conceptions of a general order of existence and clothing these conceptions with such an aura of factuality that the moods and motivations seem uniquely realistic."

So it seems to me that religion is pretty much whatever you feel is especially important and place in a prominent position within your beliefs. Maybe. Not really very well defined, is it?

(March 19, 2013 at 7:10 pm)archangle Wrote: it is a religion.

Yep. You got us. Your incredibly powerful skills of argumentation have logicked us to a standstill. You have defeated us, through your amazing wit. Well done, sir. Atheism simply must be a religion, we were blind not to see it before. Thank you, sir, for putting us on the straight and narrow. Thank you for showing us just how blind we were. If only more of us were as reasoned as you...

/sarcasm.

Hey, dude? Do you want to provide literally any-fucking-thing to back up that statement, or are you really that utterly arrogant that you think your by fiat assertions count for shit?

As to the article itself... well, it's just a checklist for tired old anti-atheist canards, isn't it? There wasn't an original thought to be had, let alone one that hasn't yet been refuted. Jeez.