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How do you debated a Muslim?
#61
RE: How do you debated a Muslim?
Quote:attributing a certain thing to one ethnic group specificaly - is racist!
No it's not. It's racist if you said that there are biological barriers to other ethnic group that would prevent them from doing something your ethnicity does.

There's nothing racist about saying the people of one ethnicity are in average more reasonable and/or smarter than another if you recognize those differences arise because of circumstantial reasons.
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#62
RE: How do you debated a Muslim?
(March 20, 2013 at 12:18 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote:
Quote:attributing a certain thing to one ethnic group specificaly - is racist!
No it's not. It's racist if you said that there are biological barriers to other ethnic group that would prevent them from doing something your ethnicity does.

There's nothing racist about saying the people of one ethnicity are in average more reasonable and/or smarter than another if you recognize those differences arise because of circumstantial reasons.

Yet he stated that one had to learn reasoning from the "whites".

This has nothing to do with "circumstancial reasons"

It means that only "whites" are capable of reasoning.
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#63
RE: How do you debated a Muslim?
Stop pretending that's what it means TGAC.

You're the one pretending that it is fair to say "Muslims are against democracy"

That sweeping generalisation just gives bigoted hateful guys like yourself to licence sayings like - kick the Muslims out.

Quoting figures from different countries around the world and pretending it represents Muslims in Democratic countries.

Muslims in the UK aren't crazed lunatics wanting to overthrow democracy - I know cos I actually live and work with Muslim Doctors, Teachers, politicians in there plenty who are politically active members of their community. Most politically active Muslims where I live are members of SNP or Labour and your efforts to try to flesh out this picture of discrimination against Muslims - applicable evidence will show that your discrimination against a massive diverse group of people will fail.

Honest people don't want to kick Muslims out of the UK - a place where they have been integrated for centuries.

Your suggestion of kick the Muslims out is nothing more than useless discrimination.

*integrated for generations
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#64
RE: How do you debated a Muslim?
(March 21, 2013 at 9:31 am)Dawud Wrote: Stop pretending that's what it means TGAC.

I am not pretending anything, I am simply quoting what you stated.

I didnt accuse you of being a racist, I made clear that you made a racist post. YYou could have done that involuntarily - not knowing that it would be racist.

Quote:You're the one pretending that it is fair to say "Muslims are against democracy"

I am simply quoting the statistics which show that the majority of muslims - are undemocrac.

Quote:That sweeping generalisation just gives bigoted hateful guys like yourself to licence sayings like - kick the Muslims out.

I gave statistics - which you willingly ignored, you gave your statistics - which I didnt ignore and which actualy proved my point.

And yes. I do support the motion in favor of kicking radical muslim immigrants out of the country.

Quote:Quoting figures from different countries around the world and pretending it represents Muslims in Democratic countries.

Let me get this strait. I post statistics from a certain source and you ignore them, then you post statistics from the same source, insisting on the validity of that source, and I dont ignore them. And no you say statistics shouldnt be taken serious?

Quote:Muslims in the UK aren't crazed lunatics wanting to overthrow democracy - I know cos I actually live and work with Muslim Doctors, Teachers, politicians in there plenty who are politically active members of their community. Most politically active Muslims where I live are members of SNP or Labour and your efforts to try to flesh out this picture of discrimination against Muslims - applicable evidence will show that your discrimination against a massive diverse group of people will fail.

Your personal expirences are non of my concern - neighter are they valid enought a base to build an argument on them.

I base my argument on statistics whoch show that the majority of muslims are undemocratic and reject western values even when they live in a western country.

Quote:Honest people don't want to kick Muslims out of the UK - a place where they have been integrated for centuries.

What has kicking out a undesierable immigrant got to do with honesty?

Quote:Your suggestion of kick the Muslims out is nothing more than useless discrimination.

Funny that you mention discrimination, considering how muslims are mostly antisemetic and sexist - even in the west.

My suggestion of kicking out those who refuse to integrate - is not discriminatory - exactly the opposite, it is meant to preven discrimination coming from a group of people who see it as their religious duty to discriminate jews, women and non muslims and to totaly reject the laws of the land.
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#65
RE: How do you debated a Muslim?
"Kick em out!"

Too funny mate
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#66
RE: How do you debated a Muslim?
Deportation

if you want the correct term. And yes! in certain cases they deserve it.

Again you didnt answere a single argument.


I dont care, I am heading off to school.
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#67
RE: How do you debated a Muslim?
Heehee

Maybe you'll get taught to be less bigoted. You're pointing towards not a problem of anti-democracy or crime.

Your pretence that this is somehow a Muslim problem is a cancerous danger to our society.

Fight crime - don't generalise massive groups of people.

I'm sure your teachers will be in agreement.

*pointing towards a problem of

That's bigotry

Thanks for rejecting the idea that all Muslims are - anti democracy or anti pluralist

You can't wake a man who is pretending to be asleep TGAC

But you can control someone if they refuse to agree with you
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#68
RE: How do you debated a Muslim?
(March 21, 2013 at 12:10 pm)Dawud Wrote: Heehee

Maybe you'll get taught to be less bigoted.

Show me where I am a bigot?

Quote:You're pointing towards not a problem of anti-democracy or crime.

Was that even english?

Quote:Your pretence that this is somehow a Muslim problem is a cancerous danger to our society.

currently yes. Yet I dont blame all of sociaties failings on muslims, yet I want them to take responsibility for those which they are responsible for.

Quote:Fight crime - don't generalise massive groups of people.

Nope. Fighting crime means getting to the source. Finding out what the reason for crime is.
And I can clearly say - political islam - is a cause for criminality.

Quote:I'm sure your teachers will be in agreement.

what has that to do with the subject??????

Quote:*pointing towards a problem of

That's bigotry

How is pointing out what causes a problem - bigotry?


Quote:Thanks for rejecting the idea that all Muslims are - anti democracy or anti pluralist

I NEVER HAD THAT IDEA!!!! Are you yet another one of these dishonest morons who when running out of arguments lie about what their opponent said?

Quote:You can't wake a man who is pretending to be asleep TGAC

???????

Quote:But you can control someone if they refuse to agree with you

What the fuck are you talking about?
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#69
RE: How do you debated a Muslim?
Well thank you for your kind hearted support of the Muslim community to integrate into society TGAC.

I thought you were just a bigot.

Silly me

I'm sorry
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#70
RE: How do you debated a Muslim?
*sigh*


Do you really believe, that keeoing the current style that you have, which is not adressing any argument with a counter argument and ignoring the stuff which you dont like, will get you any further in the debates here?

Or that it will actualy get you any further in life itself?
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