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RE: Anti-Islam Dutch politician converts to Islam
May 16, 2013 at 11:58 am
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(May 16, 2013 at 11:16 am)ideologue08 Wrote: I'm too busy imagining Stalin, it's a shame his beliefs didn't die along with him.
Agreed - it is a shame that people still continue to throw their lots in with dictatorships maintained by the act of or threat of cruel, severe, or brutal retaliation on part of the ruling regime - shit like fucking "allah" or divine laws, for example.
Or- if you prefer, that similar complicity is elicited by the hollow excuse of "benevolence" as though the relative benevolence or malevolence of said dictatorship were the only qualifying factor in whether or not a dictatorship were justifiable, or preferable - let alone - perhaps most amusingly in this specific example...existent.
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RE: Anti-Islam Dutch politician converts to Islam
May 16, 2013 at 12:04 pm
I was referring to Stalin's Atheism, his Atheist henchmen and lack of morals. Haha don't fuck around with me, fuck with the rag doll you call your wife.
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RE: Anti-Islam Dutch politician converts to Islam
May 16, 2013 at 12:08 pm
-Of course you were- lol.
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RE: Anti-Islam Dutch politician converts to Islam
May 16, 2013 at 12:19 pm
Eh..yes I was, now go fuck with others haha
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RE: Anti-Islam Dutch politician converts to Islam
May 16, 2013 at 12:23 pm
Can we play nice now? LOL
I can't help but wonder what it was that appealed to this dude, considering what used to come out of his mouth about his new-found faith before. Could it be he perceived some short term political advantage to it?
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RE: Anti-Islam Dutch politician converts to Islam
May 16, 2013 at 12:27 pm
(May 16, 2013 at 12:23 pm)Raven Wrote: Can we play nice now? LOL
I can't help but wonder what it was that appealed to this dude, considering what used to come out of his mouth about his new-found faith before. Could it be he perceived some short term political advantage to it? Well, he said that as he read more and more, he didn't find Islam to be what he first thought. Perhaps he's using it as a political tool, who really knows, but I can't say I'm not happy for him if he's sincere.
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RE: Anti-Islam Dutch politician converts to Islam
May 16, 2013 at 12:28 pm
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(May 16, 2013 at 12:23 pm)Raven Wrote: Can we play nice now? LOL
:puts his hands in the air and backs away slowly:
Okay, okay..lol.
IDK, I mean, as much as I like to invoke the cynical with politicians, perhaps he just found the faith, you know? If we was very critical towards this position it stands to reason that he would -from that moment on- be exposed to it often. It's no stretch to imagine that a person who spends time or effort hearing some side of a position may be swayed by it - and as mentioned...the guy already believed in fucking ghosts to begin with. I don't see anything surprising here.
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RE: Anti-Islam Dutch politician converts to Islam
May 16, 2013 at 12:40 pm
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(May 16, 2013 at 10:07 am)ideologue08 Wrote: (May 16, 2013 at 9:48 am)Faith No More Wrote: Tu Quoque That's bullshit. People who blame Islam are only doing so because the perpetrators are Muslims. No better than blaming democracy for the actions of Nazi Germany or the United States.
It would be silly to blame Islam if the perpetrators weren't Muslims, wouldn't it?
Democracy isn't perfect, it can lead to bad outcomes. As the saying goes, democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried. You can certainly point to weaknesses in the democratic process that enabled Hitler or put warmongers in control of the US military.
(May 16, 2013 at 12:27 pm)ideologue08 Wrote: Well, he said that as he read more and more, he didn't find Islam to be what he first thought. Perhaps he's using it as a political tool, who really knows, but I can't say I'm not happy for him if he's sincere.
He was probably so far off-base about what Islam is really about that it was like a revelation to learn that a lot he blamed on the religion had more to do with political and tribal folly coated with a veneer of religious justification.
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RE: Anti-Islam Dutch politician converts to Islam
May 16, 2013 at 12:54 pm
I'm guessing he suffered from a traumatic brain injury.
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RE: Anti-Islam Dutch politician converts to Islam
May 16, 2013 at 12:57 pm
(May 16, 2013 at 12:40 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: (May 16, 2013 at 10:07 am)ideologue08 Wrote: That's bullshit. People who blame Islam are only doing so because the perpetrators are Muslims. No better than blaming democracy for the actions of Nazi Germany or the United States.
It would be silly to blame Islam if the perpetrators weren't Muslims, wouldn't it? Yes, yes, Islam is to blame for anything a Muslim does wrong, I get it. Do the Atheists on here all learn from the same textbook? Probably from Sam Harris who thinks a boogeyman will jump out and eat him when a opens a Qur'an.
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