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RE: Is researching into religion a waste of time?
May 20, 2013 at 2:01 pm
Everytime goodnews spews a quote, so shall I. It is written.
"Question with boldness even the existence of God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear." - Thomas Jefferson
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
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RE: Is researching into religion a waste of time?
May 20, 2013 at 2:23 pm
(May 20, 2013 at 2:01 pm)missluckie26 Wrote: Everytime goodnews spews a quote, so shall I. It is written.
"Question with boldness even the existence of God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason than that of blindfolded fear." - Thomas Jefferson
A man after my own heart, He recognized religion for the evil it is, and upheld his faith in the power and goodness of God.
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RE: Is researching into religion a waste of time?
May 20, 2013 at 2:32 pm
Try this one:
“The Bible’s too wordy. The 10 Commandments are a load of shit. You don’t need all these things. The Bible should be one sheet of paper, and on that sheet of paper it should say: ‘Try not to be a cunt.'" - Jim Jefferies
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RE: Is researching into religion a waste of time?
May 20, 2013 at 2:45 pm
(This post was last modified: May 20, 2013 at 2:45 pm by Mystical.)
“And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter. But may we hope that the dawn of reason and freedom of thought in these United States will do away with this artificial scaffolding, and restore to us the primitive and genuine doctrines of this most venerated reformer of human errors.”
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
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RE: Is researching into religion a waste of time?
May 20, 2013 at 4:16 pm
Quote:‘Try not to be a cunt.'"
Pay attention, goodie.
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RE: Is researching into religion a waste of time?
May 20, 2013 at 11:41 pm
(May 20, 2013 at 12:20 am)ThomM Wrote: Actually - researching religion shows how religions evolved from ONE ANOTHER over time - and the fact that this DID happen is hard to deny. As nations absorbed or put others into bondage - religions changed to add the newest feature of the religions to keep them "current".
Now - if YOU ignore the obvious deception of religion - the history of religion is NOT a history of gods - but it IS a history of the Governance of humans - and the history of the Law of humans as well. THAT is what early religion was - a way to keep the masses of uneducated people in line when you had no other way to communicate with them. PUT a mythical creature above them and tell them what to do - and they more or less obeyed.
Education is what allowed science to prove that the "mythical" basis of religion is nonsense - and as more and more people get educated - less and less people believe their religion even if they stay in them/ - but what replaced religion is other forms of governance - with the people more represented in many cases.
Much kudos!
I am inclined to go with this definition Mystic. Religion to law to politics. It is not a study about god, religious research is a study about human political development over say 3,000 years or more
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RE: Is researching into religion a waste of time?
May 21, 2013 at 12:33 am
(May 20, 2013 at 4:37 am)goodnews Wrote: Your pain is evident, as truth hurts, and here is why, / For the word of God is quick, and powerfull, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart. Hebrews 4:12
The words of a dullard are painful to the ear. -apo
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RE: Is researching into religion a waste of time?
May 21, 2013 at 1:38 am
(May 20, 2013 at 2:32 pm)cato123 Wrote: Try this one:
“The Bible’s too wordy. The 10 Commandments are a load of shit. You don’t need all these things. The Bible should be one sheet of paper, and on that sheet of paper it should say: ‘Try not to be a cunt.'" - Jim Jefferies
That would be nice, but a vast portion of the Bible is lists of people to be cunts to and reasons to feel like a hero for doing it. It would probably not catch on with the current fanbase.
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RE: Is researching into religion a waste of time?
May 21, 2013 at 3:50 am
If we ever forget that we are One Nation Under God, then we will be a nation gone under. Ronald Reagan
It is impossible to wrightly govern a nation without God and the Bible. George Washington
I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just; that His justice cannot sleep forever. Thomas Jefferson
Sir, my concern is not weather God is on our side; my greatest concern is to be on God's side, as God is always write. Abraham Lincoln.
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RE: Is researching into religion a waste of time?
May 21, 2013 at 6:20 am
(May 21, 2013 at 3:50 am)goodnews Wrote: It is impossible to wrightly govern a nation without God and the Bible. George Washington
You're saying we should've had a President George Wright?
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
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