Quote:Meet me at this gloryhole so you suck on it bitch.

You strike me as the kind who hangs out in gay bathrooms. Allah is going to be very upset with you.

Luckily, allah is as phony as you are.

Small distinction.... Parrots don't talk at all. They mimic sounds

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The only known snake " language" is Parseltongue (sp?) And that was fictitious too.

(May 24, 2013 at 12:21 pm)goodnews Wrote: I understand perfectly, any atheist that discusses and is taught theorys associated with atheism is according to the dictionary a person of religion. and therefore religious.

Thanks for confirming you have no idea what you are talking about.

There are no theories associated with atheism.

Atheism is simply the response, "I don't believe you. Please provide me with demonstrable evidence and reasoned argument to support your assertion." When a theists claims a god exists.

Anything other than that is outside the purview of atheism.

(May 24, 2013 at 12:49 pm)KichigaiNeko Wrote: Small distinction.... Parrots don't talk at all. They mimic sounds

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The only known snake " language" is Parseltongue (sp?) And that was fictitious too.

(May 24, 2013 at 12:42 pm)gitonga Wrote: 6. whats wrong with it being rediculous? doesnt make it any less true

As a rule of thumb, an assertion that's ridiculous (extremely silly or unreasonable) is less likely to be true than an assertion that's sensible. In the case of heaven and hell, they're offered as places of infinite reward or punishment after death by a being that embodies justice...but people are finite and can't possibly deserve eternal reward or punishment, so giving it is unjust, which contradicts the idea that the being offering it is supremely just. That's aside from the physics issues with such realms.

(May 24, 2013 at 12:42 pm)gitonga Wrote: so your willing to believe evidence but not search for it?

The burden of proof is on the person making the claim. I have no right to say six-legged hippos live in the depths of the Amazon jungle and assign the homework of proving they don't to those who doubt me. The claim is mine to support and no one should take me seriously if I don't.

(May 24, 2013 at 12:42 pm)gitonga Wrote: if parrots were extinct but you heard they could talk but there was no science behind it, would you actually try do what she's done and find evidence of it being possible or just dismiss it while some other scientist does the grunt work? what i'm tring to say is that maybe snakes did talk but we've just not figured out how.

It's an interesting scenario, but snakes are anatomically incapable of speech. You could put the brain of the smartest person who has ever lived in a snake and the snake still wouldn't be able to speak.

I suggest you go with 'Satanic ventriloquism' as an explanation that will allow you to retain your literalist beliefs, or perhaps serpents lost their voices as well as their legs, but the Bible just failed to mention that part.

Have you ever noticed that Adam and Eve were punished for a sin they committed before they had knowledge of good and evil to know that what they were doing was wrong?

If you're willing not to be so literal, the serpent is a good metaphor for that part of our mind that tempts us to disobey those in authority over us.

(May 24, 2013 at 1:05 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: If you're willing not to be so literal, the serpent is a good metaphor for that part of our mind that tempts us to disobey those in authority over us.

-or or our urge to seek out knowledge that forever removes us from any "naked in the woods oblivious" scenario

(May 24, 2013 at 12:42 pm)gitonga Wrote: 1. At this point i would remeber that jiddu krishnamurti said comparison is bad i have no view on why it's truer than any other religion but i would ask what would be your problem with it on its own
2. I think i already responded to that earlier in the thread
3. Try see what all versions have in common. To me i'd say thats the only part that matters the rest is up to you
5. eg?
6. whats wrong with it being rediculous? doesnt make it any less true
8,9,10.as i said please look up joseph prince

so your willing to believe evidence but not search for it? if parrots were extinct but you heard they could talk but there was no science behind it, would you actually try do what she's done and find evidence of it being possible or just dismiss it while some other scientist does the grunt work? what i'm tring to say is that maybe snakes did talk but we've just not figured out how

Actually, Mister Agenda said all I wanted to say, so I fully concur with him.

I could point out a lot of the issues I have with the Christian faith - but in dealing with the people who hold that faith, I only have a problem with people that push their particular interpretation on others, only then do I challenge it, otherwise it's confined to forums like these.

I respect people in IRL to believe whatever they want to believe as long as they're not infringing on me and my rights; this means that I only confront proselytizing, basically.

(May 24, 2013 at 9:56 am)Kayenneh Wrote: Why I dislike Christianity:

1. Why is it any truer than any other religion?
2. Which denomination is correct?
3. Which version of the bible is correct?
4. Who gets to speak with the voice of God, if man is too small to understand him?
5. Contradictions, contradictions.
6. Concept of heaven/hell is ridiculous.
7. Has fought against progress for too long.
8. Some of the most avid followers seem to have a problem with understanding their own set of rules (do not steal, give away your fortune, do not judge your fellow man etc.)
9. Some branches enhance problems with and lie about sex and sexuality.
10. Even the good the church does comes always with strings attached.

These are the kind of issues I mean by, by faith alone.