RE: Question about two possible attributes of God
June 4, 2013 at 6:12 pm
(This post was last modified: June 4, 2013 at 6:16 pm by fr0d0.)
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Question about two possible attributes of God
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H0ary H0bbit Religious Views: “Never to suffer would never to have been blessed.” - Edgar Allan Poe 
Bad Wolf
Compulsive procrastinator  Religious Views: Agnostic atheist, anti-theist, whovian, misanthrope?
How about you just do a quick summary then
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House “Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom "If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech
H0ary H0bbit Religious Views: “Never to suffer would never to have been blessed.” - Edgar Allan Poe
I couldn't put it more succinctly than Ryft did. Go check it out.
Bad Wolf
Compulsive procrastinator Religious Views: Agnostic atheist, anti-theist, whovian, misanthrope?
I searched his name but loads of threads come up so i have no idea. Can you give me a link
'The more I learn about people the more I like my dog'- Mark Twain
'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House “Young earth creationism is essentially the position that all of modern science, 90% of living scientists and 98% of living biologists, all major university biology departments, every major science journal, the American Academy of Sciences, and every major science organization in the world, are all wrong regarding the origins and development of life….but one particular tribe of uneducated, bronze aged, goat herders got it exactly right.” - Chuck Easttom "If my good friend Doctor Gasparri speaks badly of my mother, he can expect to get punched.....You cannot provoke. You cannot insult the faith of others. You cannot make fun of the faith of others. There is a limit." - Pope Francis on freedom of speech  (June 4, 2013 at 3:35 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: No to the only thing it could be no to. Okay, so god didn't create logic, then? He is thus bound by something he didn't create?
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
 RE: Question about two possible attributes of God
June 4, 2013 at 10:55 pm
(This post was last modified: June 4, 2013 at 10:59 pm by Godscreated.)
(June 4, 2013 at 4:05 pm)Rationalman Wrote:(June 4, 2013 at 2:52 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: If rape is always wrong, then god couldn't ask you to do it. God is confined by logic. This does not limit his omnipotence. Neither are Him stupid, go study scripture before asking such stupid questions.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
 (June 4, 2013 at 10:20 am)Godschild Wrote:(June 4, 2013 at 6:47 am)Rationalman Wrote: So if God told you to go rape a little girl, would you do it? I mean it must be morally right, yea? If God told you to do it. God raped "Mary" if we are to believe your silly-assed stories. Neither in Luke 1 or Matty 1 is there any indication of "choice." Much like a rapist - "god" just sends his homeboys out to tell her what is going to happen. I'm sure you are fine with the whole stupid idea. If you ask me, god should be doing life in the state pen.  (June 4, 2013 at 5:33 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: You mistake the bible as gods dictates and not what it is, a record of Gods influence. Some laws we're cultural and need to be understood in context. In 2000 years plus people may look at some things we think perfectly acceptable and think them equally horrific. Would we be evil people or products of our surroundings? Why, you might almost think that "God's" idea of right and wrong was invented by Hebrew priests to reflect the opinions of Hebrew priests or something.
H0ary H0bbit Religious Views: “Never to suffer would never to have been blessed.” - Edgar Allan Poe RE: Question about two possible attributes of God
June 5, 2013 at 12:59 am
(This post was last modified: June 5, 2013 at 1:01 am by fr0d0.)
if you ignore what you quoted Ryan, perhaps.
(June 4, 2013 at 9:31 pm)Faith No More Wrote: Okay, so god didn't create logic, then? He is thus bound by something he didn't create? God is a logical God. It's part of his nature to necessarily be so. Just follow your thinking through and see the impossibility.  (June 5, 2013 at 12:59 am)fr0d0 Wrote: if you ignore what you quoted Ryan, perhaps.At one point this logical guy says "I have given every green plant for food.", then later he revises the entire thing and says "but from one tree thou shalt not eat", and then gets all pissed when they get his instructions wrong. And what's logical about asking someone to sacrifice an animal or even his own son? 
"Men see clearly enough the barbarity of all ages — except their own!" — Ernest Crosby.
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