But we agree that a God would fit the description of what "good" is.
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What is "FAITH"
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 (July 2, 2013 at 11:45 pm)Consilius Wrote: But we agree that a God would fit the description of what "good" is. False. Careful inspection of biblical scripture conveys that god is anything but good.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter  (July 2, 2013 at 11:50 pm)Maelstrom Wrote:(July 2, 2013 at 11:45 pm)Consilius Wrote: But we agree that a God would fit the description of what "good" is. You've never carefully inspected the Bible, so how could you possibly make such a statement?
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
(July 2, 2013 at 11:57 pm)Godschild Wrote: You've never carefully inspected the Bible. False, but nice try.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
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July 3, 2013 at 12:28 am
(This post was last modified: July 3, 2013 at 12:41 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(July 2, 2013 at 11:45 pm)Consilius Wrote: But we agree that a God would fit the description of what "good" is.I don't recall having ever agreed to that (in truth my opinion is about as far from any such agreement as it could possibly be). Further, it wouldn't matter if we did agree, we will have to provide a sound and valid explanation for such an agreement before we can claim that it (or the subject which it refers to) is "rooted in logic". That's the second time, btw, since we've met, that you've tried to peddle some easily checked bullshit about me or what I have or have not done. Get your shit together, because I'm tired of trying to get it together for you.
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July 3, 2013 at 12:46 am
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(July 2, 2013 at 11:50 pm)Maelstrom Wrote:This isn't a Bible argument. That is something that is being dealt with on another thread.(July 2, 2013 at 11:45 pm)Consilius Wrote: But we agree that a God would fit the description of what "good" is. God exists because truth (logic) and goodness (morality) do. They are eternal, immutable, invisible, and universal. They do not need to be taught, but are wired into the brains of people everywhere. They bring the human race together and lead it to an origin that is beyond us all.  
H0ary H0bbit Religious Views: “Never to suffer would never to have been blessed.” - Edgar Allan Poe (July 2, 2013 at 11:50 pm)Maelstrom Wrote:(July 2, 2013 at 11:45 pm)Consilius Wrote: But we agree that a God would fit the description of what "good" is. and that is a baseless assertion that we're keep asking for evidence of.  RE: What is "FAITH"
July 3, 2013 at 4:17 am
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God exists because truth (logic) and goodness (morality) do. They are eternal, immutable, invisible, and universal. They do not need to be taught, but are wired into the brains of people everywhere. They bring the human race together and lead it to an origin that is beyond us.
 (July 3, 2013 at 12:46 am)Consilius Wrote:(July 2, 2013 at 11:50 pm)Maelstrom Wrote: False. Careful inspection of biblical scripture conveys that god is anything but good.This isn't a Bible argument. That is something that is being dealt with on another thread. Thank gawd for Christians who can consider the existence of gods apart from the bible. This shows some very healthy self-reliance rather than the eagerness for self abdication I usually encounter. Kudos to you sir. Kudos I say. I appreciate that so much I almost hesitate to ask, but how much weight do you give the bible in your understanding of how to live a good life? And, hypothetically, if you came to believe that the bible was not so much divinely dictated by God so much as it was a collection of bits early Christians found inspiring, would your faith in God survive? |
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