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RE: How can a god, that apparently loves everyone, allow this kind of thing to happen?
October 28, 2013 at 11:36 am
(October 28, 2013 at 11:23 am)Rationalman Wrote: I don't know about helping to find keys but I see a lot of professional footballers do the cross sign thing before a game. Are they not asking god to help their team win? Maybe, or they could mean that glory should go to God either way.
Quote:And if they do win, do they attribute this to god?
Sometimes, but unless they say something like "God specifically told me to go with a draw on that touchdown play," such attribution would fall under the "general" category.
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RE: How can a god, that apparently loves everyone, allow this kind of thing to happen?
October 28, 2013 at 11:39 am
ahaha I'm English, I was talking about real football. Why is it that Americans feel they can just rename it soccer. We invented the damn sport, if you play it, you should use the correct name!
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RE: How can a god, that apparently loves everyone, allow this kind of thing to happen?
October 28, 2013 at 12:54 pm
Because real football involves hot sweaty men grabbing and jumping on each other in a huge pile, not that faggy, gay soccer stuff.
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RE: How can a god, that apparently loves everyone, allow this kind of thing to happen?
October 28, 2013 at 1:46 pm
(October 28, 2013 at 11:39 am)Rationalman Wrote: ahaha I'm English, I was talking about real football. Why is it that Americans feel they can just rename it soccer. We invented the damn sport, if you play it, you should use the correct name! Then my point about specific instructions for a scoring play are not applicable, as soccer doesn't have those.
Take it up the side, center it, hope someone's there - all there is to soccer strategy.
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RE: How can a god, that apparently loves everyone, allow this kind of thing to happen?
October 29, 2013 at 6:30 am
(October 28, 2013 at 10:29 am)John V Wrote: (October 28, 2013 at 9:23 am)Zen Badger Wrote: Why is it so hard for Christians to answer this question?
It's quite simple.... The answer is quite simple, too...because God doesn't tell us everything.
Quote:Why won't god help find missing children?
Instead you go off on all sorts of tangents.
It's quite applicable to expose a straw man.
If I knew a Christian who claimed that God gave precise answers to all his questions, I'd also ask his to ask God about missing children. But I don't know any Christians making that claim.
I fail to see how it is a strawman, all sorts of christians claim to be in direct contact with god, the pope, various pastors and priests, even people like Godschild.
And yet your omniscient, omnipresent, compassionate god refuses to help locate missing children.
If you were in a position to help a child in such a position you would.
So why won't your god? Or are you a more moral person than your god?
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RE: How can a god, that apparently loves everyone, allow this kind of thing to happen?
October 29, 2013 at 8:26 am
(October 29, 2013 at 6:30 am)Zen Badger Wrote: I fail to see how it is a strawman, It's simple. Very few Christians claim to receive such specific guidance from God. I agree that your question is fair to the few who do make such claim, but for most Christians, it's a straw man. I of course don't read all the posts, so if a Christian here makes such claims, quote it.
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RE: How can a god, that apparently loves everyone, allow this kind of thing to happen?
October 29, 2013 at 8:56 am
(October 29, 2013 at 8:26 am)John V Wrote: (October 29, 2013 at 6:30 am)Zen Badger Wrote: I fail to see how it is a strawman, It's simple. Very few Christians claim to receive such specific guidance from God. I agree that your question is fair to the few who do make such claim, but for most Christians, it's a straw man. I of course don't read all the posts, so if a Christian here makes such claims, quote it.
So god doesn't guide people?
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RE: How can a god, that apparently loves everyone, allow this kind of thing to happen?
October 29, 2013 at 9:03 am
(October 29, 2013 at 8:26 am)John V Wrote: It's simple. Very few Christians claim to receive such specific guidance from God. I agree that your question is fair to the few who do make such claim, but for most Christians, it's a straw man. I of course don't read all the posts, so if a Christian here makes such claims, quote it.
What's your basis for coming to this conclusion that "most" christians don't get specific guidance from god? Your own personal experience isn't exactly applicable to the entire population.
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RE: How can a god, that apparently loves everyone, allow this kind of thing to happen?
October 29, 2013 at 9:09 am
(October 29, 2013 at 8:56 am)Zen Badger Wrote: So god doesn't guide people? Not in the way you're suggesting.
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RE: How can a god, that apparently loves everyone, allow this kind of thing to happen?
October 29, 2013 at 9:12 am
(October 29, 2013 at 9:09 am)John V Wrote: (October 29, 2013 at 8:56 am)Zen Badger Wrote: So god doesn't guide people? Not in the way you're suggesting.
In a way that's actually useful?
You got that right.
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