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RE: JFK: The Smoking Gun
November 20, 2013 at 9:23 am
(November 20, 2013 at 9:08 am)I and I Wrote: 1. Oswald was in the U.S. military (pro U.S.)
2 Oswald then later is a spy and assumes the identity of a communist to get into communist countries (anti-U.S.)
3. Oswald then comes back to the U.S. after failing at being a spy, when he comes back he meets and hangs out with secret service people (the people he knows from the community of fellow employees). He hangs out with anti-communist radical groups. (Pro-U,S)
While he is hanging out with radical anti-communist people and other associated with secret service/intelligence organizations he is operating a front organization still pretending to be a communist.
Seems like oswald was a spy, a failed spy, that was useful to use in placing him there the day that JFK was killed and possibly having fired shots.
Oswald as shown above was a bad spy and blew his cover when he got arrested, he spilled the beans and said he was a patsy, so he then had to go "swimming with the fishes".
No, he was a mental nut whose original target was a Texas government official. When he found out JFK was coming to town he switched his target. His family had been worried about his mental state even before he started bitching about government.
Oswald was a loner and a mental case. There was no conspiracy.
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RE: JFK: The Smoking Gun
November 20, 2013 at 9:51 am
Well, since 'they' would actually have sent him "sleeping with the fishes", instead of swimming with them, that there's a blatant clue of a coverup. I don't believe a Gubbenmint agency would make such an obvious mistake.
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JFK: The Smoking Gun
November 20, 2013 at 10:13 am
(November 20, 2013 at 9:23 am)Brian37 Wrote: (November 20, 2013 at 9:08 am)I and I Wrote: 1. Oswald was in the U.S. military (pro U.S.)
2 Oswald then later is a spy and assumes the identity of a communist to get into communist countries (anti-U.S.)
3. Oswald then comes back to the U.S. after failing at being a spy, when he comes back he meets and hangs out with secret service people (the people he knows from the community of fellow employees). He hangs out with anti-communist radical groups. (Pro-U,S)
While he is hanging out with radical anti-communist people and other associated with secret service/intelligence organizations he is operating a front organization still pretending to be a communist.
Seems like oswald was a spy, a failed spy, that was useful to use in placing him there the day that JFK was killed and possibly having fired shots.
Oswald as shown above was a bad spy and blew his cover when he got arrested, he spilled the beans and said he was a patsy, so he then had to go "swimming with the fishes".
No, he was a mental nut whose original target was a Texas government official. When he found out JFK was coming to town he switched his target. His family had been worried about his mental state even before he started bitching about government.
Oswald was a loner and a mental case. There was no conspiracy.
So what were his reasons for hobnobbing with rightwing/intelligence agency officials?
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RE: JFK: The Smoking Gun
November 20, 2013 at 10:15 am
Provide evidence for your claim. Then explain how correlation equals causation with respect to that claim.
(There are pictures of Churchill and FDR with Stalin, were they both secret communists too?)
(November 20, 2013 at 10:13 am)I and I Wrote: (November 20, 2013 at 9:23 am)Brian37 Wrote: No, he was a mental nut whose original target was a Texas government official. When he found out JFK was coming to town he switched his target. His family had been worried about his mental state even before he started bitching about government.
Oswald was a loner and a mental case. There was no conspiracy.
So what were his reasons for hobnobbing with rightwing/intelligence agency officials?
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RE: JFK: The Smoking Gun
November 20, 2013 at 10:26 am
(November 20, 2013 at 10:13 am)I and I Wrote: (November 20, 2013 at 9:23 am)Brian37 Wrote: No, he was a mental nut whose original target was a Texas government official. When he found out JFK was coming to town he switched his target. His family had been worried about his mental state even before he started bitching about government.
Oswald was a loner and a mental case. There was no conspiracy.
So what were his reasons for hobnobbing with rightwing/intelligence agency officials?
Neither American officials or when he went to Russia or their officials took him seriously. He was simply a mental case who went to anyone he could get attention from.
Russia simply took sympathy on him because of his views, but they never gave him any official KGB or spy job. They thought he was a bit "off" as well. When he realized they were not taking him seriously, he got board and left Russia.
Again, no conspiracy. One mental case who simply managed to fly enough under the security radar.
All conspiracy crap happens in the minds of idiots who buy into them because reality isn't sexy enough for them. Same goes with bullshit like Big Foot and Crop Circles and "little green men" crap.
And this is also why religion exists. Because reality isn't sexy enough for most humans.
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RE: JFK: The Smoking Gun
November 20, 2013 at 5:41 pm
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Lets look at the video shall we?
You'll notice that the ONLY secret service agent climbing onto the President's car CLEARLY does not have a rifle in his hand. You will also notice that the agent does not climb up on the car until after JFK receives the fatal shot to the head.
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RE: JFK: The Smoking Gun
November 20, 2013 at 6:52 pm
Not only that, but there were two other agents hanging on the side of the car behind the presidential limousine, plus the agent who grabbed the rifle. If the agent who grabbed the rifle accidentally fired the fatal shot, you'd think the other two agents on the car would have noticed.
Oh right, I know, they did notice and later participated in the coverup. Sure.
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RE: JFK: The Smoking Gun
November 20, 2013 at 7:43 pm
(November 20, 2013 at 6:52 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote: Not only that, but there were two other agents hanging on the side of the car behind the presidential limousine, plus the agent who grabbed the rifle. If the agent who grabbed the rifle accidentally fired the fatal shot, you'd think the other two agents on the car would have noticed.
Oh right, I know, they did notice and later participated in the coverup. Sure.
Not to mention the onlookers on either side of the road.
Oh, wait. They were in on it too.
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JFK: The Smoking Gun
November 21, 2013 at 7:45 am
(November 20, 2013 at 10:26 am)Brian37 Wrote: (November 20, 2013 at 10:13 am)I and I Wrote: So what were his reasons for hobnobbing with rightwing/intelligence agency officials?
Neither American officials or when he went to Russia or their officials took him seriously. He was simply a mental case who went to anyone he could get attention from.
Russia simply took sympathy on him because of his views, but they never gave him any official KGB or spy job. They thought he was a bit "off" as well. When he realized they were not taking him seriously, he got board and left Russia.
Again, no conspiracy. One mental case who simply managed to fly enough under the security radar.
All conspiracy crap happens in the minds of idiots who buy into them because reality isn't sexy enough for them. Same goes with bullshit like Big Foot and Crop Circles and "little green men" crap.
And this is also why religion exists. Because reality isn't sexy enough for most humans.
Reality: The McCone-Crowley memorandum. This a memorandum to James j. Crowley who was head of U.S. Secret services from the then head of the CIA. In this memorandum FROM THE HEAD OF THE CIA HIMSELF, states that Oswald worked for intelligence agencies out of the office of naval intelligence.
Reality- Oswald was working for U.S. Intelligence agencies.
http://mccone-rowley.blogspot.com/2006/1...e.html?m=1.
The actual photocopy of this memorandum is in that link.
Reality is fun.
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RE: JFK: The Smoking Gun
November 21, 2013 at 8:41 am
Your reality must be...
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