(December 23, 2013 at 2:56 am)savedwheat Wrote: Why do atheists have no burden of proof?

Proof of what? As an atheist, my only stance is that the burden of proof hasn't been met by any religious belief system I have yet encountered. If you're asking me to prove that they haven't been met, you're kinda asking me to prove a negative and that ain't exactly easy to do; especially when supernatural beings are involved.

(December 23, 2013 at 9:03 pm)Lion IRC Wrote:

(December 23, 2013 at 11:43 am)Minimalist Wrote: Because it is impossible to prove a negative....

It is possible to prove a negative.

Science - Pluto is not a planet
Medicine - Negative test results
Law - Not guilty.



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DUDE!!!
Do you even science?!

The fail, it burns....

(December 24, 2013 at 5:05 am)savedwheat Wrote: I know lots of things, but I don't know the intricate details always.

No, you knowing nothing about it at all. You pretend to know, but you actually can't describe one whit about the process/details/methods/anything whatsoever, other than to say goddidit/Poof!/Wham!/Pow!, and call it "knowledge".

Not only do you not know the "intricate" details, you don't know any details at all.

Does pretending to know things make you feel good? I don't understand why people do this.

(December 24, 2013 at 2:48 pm)JesusHChrist Wrote: Does pretending to know things make you feel good? I don't understand why people do this.

I have an aunt... one day... I must have been some 15 years old or so...
Over a lunch, people were discussing these newish devices called micro-wave ovens.... and she said something along the lines of "micro-waves, they're called like that because they're very small"... I heard that and something definitely broke in my brain... my faith in humanity meter, probably.

(December 24, 2013 at 3:03 pm)pocaracas Wrote: I have an aunt... one day... I must have been some 15 years old or so...
Over a lunch, people were discussing these newish devices called micro-wave ovens.... and she said something along the lines of "micro-waves, they're called like that because they're very small"... I heard that and something definitely broke in my brain... my faith in humanity meter, probably.

Too funny.

Now, with the internet, it is so much easier to fact check people who insist on spinning their bullshit.

I like that.

I once had an Economics professor who would stamp particularly egregious student's papers "Bullshit" instead of giving a grade.

The point being is you don't have to know everything about something to know that it is true.

(December 24, 2013 at 5:50 pm)savedwheat Wrote: The point being is you don't have to know everything about something to know that it is true.

Conversely we do know enough to know the Christian story is bullshit.

And the Jewish story and the Muslim story as well for that matter.

The jig is up. Busted!

The Bible is most well corroborated text in history. If it is not true nothing is.

Go ahead saved wheat,

Give the non intricate details for how your god did what you claim. What was the process again? Do tell.....

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(December 24, 2013 at 6:02 pm)savedwheat Wrote: The Bible is most well corroborated text in history. If it is not true nothing is.

Utter nonsense.

Go ahead and corroborate the exodus story.

We'll wait.

As was already said, since nature can't start up by itself, it needs a cause outside itself, outside of time and space, being uncreated.