(January 19, 2014 at 6:15 pm)EgoRaptor Wrote:

(January 19, 2014 at 6:09 pm)Sinnersburninhell100 Wrote: What if she only gives permission to him because it makes him feel happy even if she doesnt enjoy it and it make her suicidal.

Then she is an extreme masochist, otherwise she wouldn't be giving him permission when it makes her suicidal. If she was an extreme masochist then she would enjoy it & wouldn't be suicidal. The only way this could happen is if she was coerced. That isn't safe, sane or consensual.

Okay I will be quiete now.

(January 19, 2014 at 6:20 pm)Sinnersburninhell100 Wrote:

(January 19, 2014 at 6:15 pm)EgoRaptor Wrote: Then she is an extreme masochist, otherwise she wouldn't be giving him permission when it makes her suicidal. If she was an extreme masochist then she would enjoy it & wouldn't be suicidal. The only way this could happen is if she was coerced. That isn't safe, sane or consensual.

Okay I will be quiete now.

You just got PWNED!

(January 19, 2014 at 5:57 pm)LastPoet Wrote:

(January 19, 2014 at 5:49 pm)Sinnersburninhell100 Wrote: Apparently as long as a man beats his wife for sexual reasons it is okay. If a man spanks his wife non sexually because she doesnt keep house clean it is wrong. If he does it because he is horny than it is fine. ATHEIST MORALITY!!!

Yeah, it has to be a poe/troll. I can hardly believe someone can be this stupid

But he's already made it clear he is Christian.

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(January 19, 2014 at 6:01 pm)Sinnersburninhell100 Wrote: Atheist are the trolls in the real world.

Real world has no god in it, moron.

(January 19, 2014 at 1:42 pm)TaraJo Wrote: What hardships do BDSM people really face? What kind of rights are denies to them? What kind of legislation or social activism could really help them, especially in those movements?

Social stigma. Not unlike the closet gay: the closet BDSM practitioner suffers little in the way of social 'hardships'.

Once one's status is known to members of a society, regardless of what said status constitutes, there is the possibility of said (believed) status affecting one's interactions with knowing/suspecting members of said society... which is often coloured by the prevailing beliefs of the (believed) majority.

Tell your parents (or an otherwise applicable figure of authority and/or judgement in your life) that you like to put a collar on your man and that he enjoys nipple clamps... and tell me you (and your man) don't suffer 'hardships' resulting of such.

Tell your employer, and see if you're not fired right quick... bring it up on a job interview, and your chances to get in have become virtually nonexistent.

That 'general sexual rights' of persons are not commonly fought for under title as such does not mean that they shall forever remain 'in the dark'.

Quote:Based on what I know now, I don't think educating people on BDSM would be a bad thing at all, but I can't imagine such a movement being as big as the gay rights movement or womens' lib since it doesn't look like the issues coming up aren't going to be as significant as employment discrimniation, housing discrimination, sexual harassment and the right to marry.

None of them currently have significant enough issues (in this country) to devote so much time and energy to 'social rallys' and the like. But twenty years ago, I would not have said this... but the information age is upon us.

Bigotry will die with the bigots

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(January 19, 2014 at 5:49 pm)Sinnersburninhell100 Wrote: Apparently as long as a man beats his wife for sexual reasons it is okay. If a man spanks his wife non sexually because she doesnt keep house clean it is wrong. If he does it because he is horny than it is fine. ATHEIST MORALITY!!!

Have you read any religious texts on the subject of beating one's wife?

I'm not actually curious, but I would suggest that you review some.

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(January 19, 2014 at 6:00 pm)LastPoet Wrote:

But it's fun.

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(January 19, 2014 at 6:03 pm)EgoRaptor Wrote: Stupid question. If she wants him to hit her than that is masochism, which is sexual.

Also, I would be happy to be given black eyes by a girl I love.

It can also be a compulsion. When normalized violent trauma disappears on a sudden, humans sometimes seek it out... it can feel 'right', even when it hurts. It can be hard to walk away from what one is used to experiencing.

Also, if one royally fucks up, and they don't know if they can adequately 'punish themselves', said individual may request the application of pain.

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(January 19, 2014 at 6:09 pm)Sinnersburninhell100 Wrote: What if she only gives permission to him because it makes him feel happy even if she doesnt enjoy it and it make her suicidal.

Then she might be using it as a tool to manipulate him along other lines which she does desire.

If giving permission to make someone feel happy is cause for suicide... then I would very much appreciate I be contacted. Nothing like taking the willing... it's quite like christmas

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(January 19, 2014 at 6:15 pm)EgoRaptor Wrote: The only way this could happen is if she was coerced. That isn't safe, sane or consensual.

There are many more ways. Personally... I'll take a little pain to further a worthwhile end. Others might well do it with the intent of shielding another, which is not always threatened by another, but which the one granting themselves in <capacity> might well be cognizant of.

Obviously, this goes a lot deeper than physical violence, and is a manipulation tool constantly under use (take an annoying task or whatever for <reason(s)>).

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(January 19, 2014 at 6:30 pm)Chuck Wrote: Real world has no god in it, moron.

It has me, moron.

(January 19, 2014 at 5:49 pm)Sinnersburninhell100 Wrote: Apparently as long as a man beats his wife for sexual reasons it is okay. If a man spanks his wife non sexually because she doesnt keep house clean it is wrong. If he does it because he is horny than it is fine. ATHEIST MORALITY!!!

One is a mutually agreed upon sex act with well defined limits. The other is a symptom of religious misogyny and the willingness of its adherents to use violence to get their way.

So while I'm a caring guy doing something that gives pleasure to my missus, you're a violent thug taking out misplaced aggression on someone your culture has programmed to think of themselves as inferior in the eyes of their creator.

Christian morality.

(January 18, 2014 at 11:49 am)EgoRaptor Wrote: I personally think that BDSM needs its own rights movement, just like what LGBT people have.

People can face much bigotry if they are openly kinky, just as gay people do. I think gays & kinksters are natural allies as no only do these categories often overlap, & both are persecuted as sexual minorities.

What are your views on this?

To me, they're equally degenerate, so it matters little if they choose to have their own rights movement.

Good contribution, mehmet.

(January 20, 2014 at 1:35 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Good contribution, mehmet.

Well, there is nothing to contribute to something that needs little contribution.
BDSM rights, X rights, Y rights, Z rights.
I think that this is all nonsense...
Like I and many of my brethren devote our lives to a higher cause, and the only thing that some people can think about is flaunting their bedroom antics in public. Really pathetic, that's all I have to say about this.

(January 20, 2014 at 1:49 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Well, there is nothing to contribute to something that needs little contribution.
BDSM rights, X rights, Y rights, Z rights.
I think that this is all nonsense...
Like I and many of my brethren devote our lives to a higher cause, and the only thing that some people can think about is flaunting their bedroom antics in public. Really pathetic, that's all I have to say about this.

Wake up mehmet, its 2014, not 1914. Talk about being born in the wrong century. You and your brethren are a joke, a sad, stupid one, but in this day and age still a joke.

(January 20, 2014 at 2:33 pm)LastPoet Wrote:

(January 20, 2014 at 1:49 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Well, there is nothing to contribute to something that needs little contribution.
BDSM rights, X rights, Y rights, Z rights.
I think that this is all nonsense...
Like I and many of my brethren devote our lives to a higher cause, and the only thing that some people can think about is flaunting their bedroom antics in public. Really pathetic, that's all I have to say about this.

Wake up mehmet, its 2014, not 1914. Talk about being born in the wrong century. You and your brethren are a joke, a sad, stupid one, but in this day and age still a joke.

I think that it is them that were born in the wrong century. Their degenerate antics were norm during the ancient roman and greek ages, and as humanity progressed, they were declared to be filthy and feral, they now resurrect the ancient rites of the Bacchanalia, they live for their own pleasure and their own pleasure only. I do not even consider these souls worthy of living. The world is slowly becoming more and more filled with unwanted souls like theirs. They don't serve a purpose, they don't make the world a better place, as their consciousness and self-identification is so shallow, that they cannot actually do anything other than what benefits them and them only.
"Degenerate" is indeed the right word for these people.