So, for the denominations of Christianity that don't accept sainthood (which is part of the apostle's creed), why are they wrong?

(May 21, 2014 at 10:09 am)alpha male Wrote: You could say that each Christian has different beliefs, making billions of forms of Christianity.

Yet, the vast majority of them accept the apostles' creed. So, you can say that there are two forms of Christianity - those that accept the apostles' creed, and those that don't.

The level of division is arbitrary.

So, in your view, are both forms of Christianity, equally valid?

I have no idea which version of Christianity you follow because you just state your belief as Christian. How do you feel about the idea that members of at least one Christian group won't regard you as being a real Christian?

Anyone who thinks a dead jew came back to life to atone for their fucking sins is a xtian..... and they are welcome to that dishonorable title!

(May 21, 2014 at 12:10 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Anyone who thinks a dead jew came back to life to atone for their fucking sins is a xtian..... and they are welcome to that dishonorable title!

That's what I think but then, I'm not a Christian.

(May 21, 2014 at 11:14 am)Confused Ape Wrote: So, in your view, are both forms of Christianity, equally valid?

No. In my view, those outside the apostles' creed are outside of Christianity. I've relaxed that lately, though. I still think it applies to those in positions of authority, but I'm not so sure of the laity. No one has a perfect understanding.

Quote:I have no idea which version of Christianity you follow because you just state your belief as Christian. How do you feel about the idea that members of at least one Christian group won't regard you as being a real Christian?

I don't care.

(May 21, 2014 at 12:25 pm)alpha male Wrote:

(May 21, 2014 at 11:14 am)Confused Ape Wrote: So, in your view, are both forms of Christianity, equally valid?

No. In my view, those outside the apostles' creed are outside of Christianity. I've relaxed that lately, though. I still think it applies to those in positions of authority, but I'm not so sure of the laity. No one has a perfect understanding.

Thank you for contributing to this topic.

Most Christians see the Mormons and JWs as cults because they accept things that are not possible according to scripture, most Christians accept that the Bible (word of God) is the only prescribed doctrine. Many denominations and Christians alike interpret scriptures differently, why, you need to ask them. None of us are totally right and God knew this would happen, so this is my belief, those who seek God's will should listen to His desire of which church they should join, even if they do not believe all that particular denomination believes. If one desires to work for God as God desires and to strengthen the Kingdom, one should be able to set aside these differences for the purpose of doing God's will. God knows I have some differences with the beliefs of the Southern Baptist Church and I can accept that, because who other than God can say I'm right or wrong.

GC

(May 21, 2014 at 12:25 pm)alpha male Wrote:

(May 21, 2014 at 11:14 am)Confused Ape Wrote: I have no idea which version of Christianity you follow because you just state your belief as Christian. How do you feel about the idea that members of at least one Christian group won't regard you as being a real Christian?

I don't care.

Right, you don't. Because, ultimately, the only version of Christianity you'll ever adhere to is the one which fits your preferences, agrees with the beliefs you already have, and is convenient for you to practice.

There are 2 billion Christians practicing 2 billion different religions, and all of the other 1,999,999,999 are wrong, and the only time you'll let them under your umbrella is if you need to whip out a quick argument ad populum.

Which is why your faith is a complete joke. But, don't take it personally. Every believer in every religion does what you do, and they are all jokes.

(May 21, 2014 at 3:39 pm)Godschild Wrote: Most Christians see the Mormons and JWs as cults because they accept things that are not possible according to scripture...

*Note to self, buy a new, sturdier irony meter*

(May 21, 2014 at 3:54 pm)Ryantology (╯°◊°)╯︵ ══╬ Wrote: Right, you don't. Because, ultimately, the only version of Christianity you'll ever adhere to is the one which fits your preferences, agrees with the beliefs you already have, and is convenient for you to practice.

There are 2 billion Christians practicing 2 billion different religions, and all of the other 1,999,999,999 are wrong,

Nope, all 2 billion are wrong in some way.

Quote:and the only time you'll let them under your umbrella is if you need to whip out a quick argument ad populum.

Uh, Sparky, have you read the thread? I said I'll let them under my umbrella if they accept the apostles' creed. That's a pretty big umbrella.

Quote:Which is why your faith is a complete joke. But, don't take it personally. Every believer in every religion does what you do, and they are all jokes.

So you think most of the people who have ever lived are jokes, and you accuse me of having a small umbrella. That's some interesting logic.