(June 14, 2014 at 11:13 am)Revelation777 Wrote:

(June 13, 2014 at 9:12 am)Bad Wolf Wrote: Kim jun un never lies, it is not in his character to lie. We know this because Kim jun un tells us this. Kim jun un is love. North Korea is best Korea. The western world is wicked from the pride found in its heart.

Rev, i'm going to ask a few questions and i woud prefer you answer them. To be clear a question will end with this symbol '?'.

Does Kim jun un always tell the truth?

Is Kim jun un good?

How do you know?

Kim Jun doesn't always tell the truth because he is a man. Kim jun is not inherently good because he is a man. I know because the Bible tells us so. Bible tells us that man is a liar and God is Truth. God is good and man is a sinner. If you were comparing man to man then your questions apply. You can't compare God to man in character.

Well - god lied in the bible too -

ANything in the bible that is NOT true must have come from your god since you claim that the bible is the inspired word of god.

Actually -there is a LIE on the very first page -= Man cannot safely use every seed bearing plant for food - and YOU can prove that one yourself - just try eating some Oleander

And of course - men who are bitten by poisonous snakes actually die - unlike what the bible says.

Of course - the Universe was NOT created in 6 days - that is a LIE as well.

(June 14, 2014 at 9:47 am)Revelation777 Wrote:

(June 13, 2014 at 12:20 am)Losty Wrote: Patiently awaiting my avatar suggestion

Ask Stimbo for ideas or Steel Curtain.

Wait... when did I get voluntold for this? When did I become a purveyor of avatars?

Rev, you have once again spouted out a stream of unsupported assertions. What is your intention here again?

If, time after time, you are spectacularly unsuccessful on your current tack, why not change tacks? It seems the reasonable thing to do. Not that you have shown yourself to be reasonable...

(June 14, 2014 at 9:47 am)Revelation777 Wrote:

(June 13, 2014 at 12:20 am)Losty Wrote: Patiently awaiting my avatar suggestion

Ask Stimbo for ideas or Steel Curtain.

Wait what? Neither Stimbo, nor Steel Curtain have expressed to me that they dislike my current avatar. What if they just suggest to me that I keep the one I have?
What is it about my avatar that you don't like?
Jeez dude, you say you don't like my avatar and I offer to change it just for you and you have no suggestions?
I really don't see what's wrong with my avatar. The Scarlet Letter was a great book and it fits me.

(June 12, 2014 at 11:15 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: I would say Satan is the second most intelligent force in the universe. Way more clever and intelligent then we. He deceives the whole world in rejecting the Truth. Obviously, he easily accomplished his goal on this board.

Really? If the Bible is true, it follows that Satan is nearly as dumb as a rock. He goes up against a power he knows is omnipotent, knows his defeat is foreordained, knows his fate is eternal anguish and torture, but goes through the motions like he's got a chance in hell (heh) of winning.

For Satan to make any sense at all, one of the following must be true: 1. God is NOT omnipotent. 2. The outcome is NOT foreordained. 3. His stay in hell won't be as bad as advertised. 4. The whole thing is a cosmic morality play where Satan's role is to play the Adversary to God, so he must play his role due to lack of free will. 5. He's nearly as dumb as a brick, too stupid to know he doesn't have a chance against omnipotence.

You believe this silly crap because you believe what's in the Bible is true. You believe the Bible is true because it's what you were raised to believe. If you'd been raised a Yazidi in Iraq, you'd believe Lucifer repented and was redeemed and is back to being one of God's high-ranking lieutenants: THAT's an intelligent Satan.

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(June 14, 2014 at 11:13 am)Revelation777 Wrote: Kim Jun doesn't always tell the truth because he is a man.

He's got many North Koreans convinced he's a demigod. How do you know they are wrong? I'm very interested in how you repond to this, because there's a good chance you don't believe Kim is a demigod for the same reason we don't believe Jesus was: the evidence for Kim having supernatural powers is all hearsay.

(June 14, 2014 at 11:13 am)Revelation777 Wrote: Kim jun is not inherently good because he is a man. I know because the Bible tells us so. Bible tells us that man is a liar and God is Truth.

The Bible tells us Jesus was a man. He was born, he lived, he died. He grew in wisdom and favor with God. He marveled and wept. God knows the day and the hour, but Jesus doesn't. He did not do his own will, but God's will, so his will was not identical to God's. Jesus was a man. Kim Jun may not be.

(June 14, 2014 at 11:13 am)Revelation777 Wrote: God is good and man is a sinner. If you were comparing man to man then your questions apply. You can't compare God to man in character.

You haven't yet established that God is not a fictional character. Even if there is a God, it may bear little resemblance to the magnified oriental potentate depicted in the OT, which would make that God fictional even if there is a God. We can compare all day long until you prove your deity isn't a human construct.

(June 14, 2014 at 11:13 am)Revelation777 Wrote: Kim Jun doesn't always tell the truth because he is a man. Kim jun is not inherently good because he is a man. I know because the Bible tells us so. Bible tells us that man is a liar and God is Truth. God is good and man is a sinner. If you were comparing man to man then your questions apply. You can't compare God to man in character.

And yet again, you are missing the point.
When I asked you why you believe god is the good guy, you replied by saying 'because he says so'. My example of Kim jun un was an effort to make you think. Just like your god, Kim jun un claims he is the good guy and everyone else is bad. The civilians of North Korea, take his word for it without any evidence to back it up. However, we know that Kim jun un and his regime are very very bad.
Can you not see how that relates to your god?
The only reason you believe that god is good, is because he tells you. Just like the civilians of North Korea, you could be misled.

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P.S. Still waiting for your 'real' scientist who claims there was a world wide flood and any supporting evidence.

(June 14, 2014 at 9:41 am)Revelation777 Wrote: No you are not correct sir. The flood took place, even there are those who reject the Noah account accept the fact that there was a world-wide flood.

Evidence or SHUT! THE! FUCK! UP! Please quote one reputable scientist in an applicable field that believes there was ever a world-wide flood. We'll be waiting (til hell freezes over).

(June 14, 2014 at 9:41 am)Revelation777 Wrote: God is not capable of sin. He is holy and righteous...it is His Character. He is not like man and man is no threat to Him nor ever will be. He is eternal. He will destroy His enemies at His return and no bomb or army can do anything about it.

According to your holy book of voo-doo your gawd lies and commits/orders murders and genocides. It's not only a sinner but a vile beast.

Concerning it's return. I'll bet it happens well before any of you ass-wipes produce any valid evidence.

(June 14, 2014 at 12:07 pm)ThomM Wrote:

(June 14, 2014 at 11:13 am)Revelation777 Wrote: Kim Jun doesn't always tell the truth because he is a man. Kim jun is not inherently good because he is a man. I know because the Bible tells us so. Bible tells us that man is a liar and God is Truth. God is good and man is a sinner. If you were comparing man to man then your questions apply. You can't compare God to man in character.

Well - god lied in the bible too -

ANything in the bible that is NOT true must have come from your god since you claim that the bible is the inspired word of god.

Actually -there is a LIE on the very first page -= Man cannot safely use every seed bearing plant for food - and YOU can prove that one yourself - just try eating some Oleander

And of course - men who are bitten by poisonous snakes actually die - unlike what the bible says.

Of course - the Universe was NOT created in 6 days - that is a LIE as well.

First of all you are assuming that every plant now was present back then. Also, you are not taking into consideration the effects of the curse, you are quoting what God said prior to the Fall. And God did create everything in 6 days. Neither you nor I were there.

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(June 13, 2014 at 7:22 pm)ThomM Wrote:

(June 11, 2014 at 10:50 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: Dearest Atheist Friends,
Jesus warned us of how things would be at the end of the age. We are now living in that time and things are going to continue to grow worse and worse. I believe that many of you will experience the Tribulation Period within your lifetime. Trust me you don't want to be there. Please repent of your sins and place your faith in Christ before it is too late. Enter into Ark before the rains come.
Your Concerned Christian Friend,
Rev777

What christ ?

There is no proof that the christ EVER lived - there is NO mention of him in ANY document that we have from his supposed time - none at all. I have as much reason to believe that Harry Potter saved the world - than the christ ever existed.

So - you may claim that the fairy tales of the bible say things - but to claim they were actually said by the christ - has not been established. In fact - you cannot even prove who wrote the bible books themselves. For example - writing analysis shows that the book of John was written by at least 3 and possibly four different persons - prove who those four are!

As far as the Ark - that is just another fairy tale of Judaism that is not true - just as your religion is NOT true as well. The bible is a bunch of fairy tales - many of which are PROVEN not to be true - so quoting from fairy tales gets you nowhere. Prove your statement using documents outside of a religious created tome - there are lots of other similar books that don't agree with you.

AND we HAVE been give NO REASON to trust you - whoever you are.

People have been claiming the end of time - the flood - etc - for More years than the bible implies the earth has existed. And to date - all of those people have died without the claimed result.

Because you say they are fairy tails I am supposed to believe that? These are real accounts and no one has proven that they are not true. The proof that Christ is a changed life of not just me but millions of other born again believers who placed their trust in Him.

(June 14, 2014 at 9:47 am)Revelation777 Wrote: Words of Life.

Words of life from a death cult?!?

(June 14, 2014 at 9:47 am)Revelation777 Wrote: He can change a heart

No thanks. I don't need a new heart. Tell your gawd to come see me again in 20-30 years, but only if he has "Dr." before his name with a specialty in cardiology.

(June 14, 2014 at 9:47 am)Revelation777 Wrote: and picture if you got converted that language you use would bother you.

You have either missed or (more likely) ignored the posts where I have admitted to begging your killer gawd for a sign because I wanted to believe. Lowest point in my life. I did learn that I could count on myself though, so I guess I should be grateful to cristeranity for something. And no, I doubt words will ever offend me. Shit, fuck and asshole are just words. They are used to convey meaning, just like all other words. If you find them offensive, that's your failing, not mine.

If God does exist, and he's looking down at the Christians like, "these fuckin' idiots..." it does seem totally within his sense of humor to burn us all up with global warming.