(June 14, 2014 at 9:51 am)Revelation777 Wrote: Most missionaries in third world countries provide food and medical help.

But, it always comes with strings attached.

Meh, bored

(June 14, 2014 at 9:52 am)Revelation777 Wrote: Adam and Eve were created to live forever, once sin entered they did die and spiritually as well.

But it didn't happen that day did it. A lie, plain and simple. And please don't give me the day equals a thousand years apologetic bullshit either. We're talking about a book that defined a day as "the evening and the morning."

(June 14, 2014 at 9:52 am)Revelation777 Wrote: Then don't reply if I bother you so much. Watch tv.

But you're so much fun!!!

(June 14, 2014 at 3:21 pm)GalacticBusDriver Wrote:

(June 14, 2014 at 9:41 am)Revelation777 Wrote: No you are not correct sir. The flood took place, even there are those who reject the Noah account accept the fact that there was a world-wide flood.

Evidence or SHUT! THE! FUCK! UP! Please quote one reputable scientist in an applicable field that believes there was ever a world-wide flood. We'll be waiting (til hell freezes over).

(June 14, 2014 at 9:41 am)Revelation777 Wrote: God is not capable of sin. He is holy and righteous...it is His Character. He is not like man and man is no threat to Him nor ever will be. He is eternal. He will destroy His enemies at His return and no bomb or army can do anything about it.

According to your holy book of voo-doo your gawd lies and commits/orders murders and genocides. It's not only a sinner but a vile beast.

Concerning it's return. I'll bet it happens well before any of you ass-wipes produce any valid evidence.

I might want to use that for a future Argument, still have 4 left.

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(June 14, 2014 at 12:51 pm)Losty Wrote:

(June 14, 2014 at 9:47 am)Revelation777 Wrote: Ask Stimbo for ideas or Steel Curtain.

Wait what? Neither Stimbo, nor Steel Curtain have expressed to me that they dislike my current avatar. What if they just suggest to me that I keep the one I have?
What is it about my avatar that you don't like?
Jeez dude, you say you don't like my avatar and I offer to change it just for you and you have no suggestions?
I really don't see what's wrong with my avatar. The Scarlet Letter was a great book and it fits me.

THen keep it.

(June 14, 2014 at 9:53 am)Revelation777 Wrote: Jesus willfully went to the cross for our sake.

I like Prometheus better. Not only did he create us. He gave us fire knowing he would be punished for it. He didn't just have a bad weekend though. He was bound to a rock so eagles could eat his liver. Every morning he grows a new one so the eagles can eat it again.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prometheus

That's what I call a sacrifice for us. Not your puny god-boy being inconvenienced for a weekend.

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(June 14, 2014 at 10:01 am)Bad Wolf Wrote: PS. I'm not very happy about you abandoning our little thinking exercise a few pages back.

You're surprised a theist quit thinking? I'm surprised when one starts!

(June 14, 2014 at 3:24 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: Because you say they are fairy tails I am supposed to believe that? These are real accounts and no one has proven that they are not true. The proof that Christ is a changed life of not just me but millions of other born again believers who placed their trust in Him.

Rev, I invite you to consider how many contradictory claims you would have to accept if you had to prove everything wrong before you stopped believing in it.

In other words, look up the burden of proof.

(June 14, 2014 at 3:34 pm)GalacticBusDriver Wrote:

(June 14, 2014 at 9:51 am)Revelation777 Wrote: Most missionaries in third world countries provide food and medical help.

But, it always comes with strings attached.

The problem there is you said "missionaries."

You speak as if that's a good thing. Exploiting the needy, the sick, the poor, the starving by giving them what they need to live and then telling them it's all because of the god YOU believe in that they're being helped, and that they need to accept this god or they'll suffer even in death.

Yeah. Really fucking generous.

Actually that's called coercion. Yeah, your "generous" missionaries are being a bunch of subversive slimeball coercive exploitative thugs, dangling food over the head of those suffering the agony of starvation, and placing it in their hand while pushing your book into the other.

Religion loves to prey on the weak and suffering. If you guys were really doing it for charity, you'd keep your fucking traps shut about your religious bullshit when you're helping these people, and simply let them know what you believe and nothing else. Instead you push your bullshit on them, and what else are they going to think? Are they, in their starving agony, really going to think for themselves? Are you really enlightening them, bringing them into the fold of your lord? Or are you simply snatching people into the shadows before they can begin to see light?

Those of secular charities are true charities. Those of missions are little more than manipulative scumbags, serving their own agenda and cloaking it with the trappings of generosity.

Unbelievable.

(June 14, 2014 at 3:32 pm)GalacticBusDriver Wrote:

(June 14, 2014 at 9:47 am)Revelation777 Wrote: Words of Life.

Words of life from a death cult?!?

(June 14, 2014 at 9:47 am)Revelation777 Wrote: He can change a heart

No thanks. I don't need a new heart. Tell your gawd to come see me again in 20-30 years, but only if he has "Dr." before his name with a specialty in cardiology.

(June 14, 2014 at 9:47 am)Revelation777 Wrote: and picture if you got converted that language you use would bother you.

You have either missed or (more likely) ignored the posts where I have admitted to begging your killer gawd for a sign because I wanted to believe. Lowest point in my life. I did learn that I could count on myself though, so I guess I should be grateful to cristeranity for something. And no, I doubt words will ever offend me. Shit, fuck and asshole are just words. They are used to convey meaning, just like all other words. If you find them offensive, that's your failing, not mine.

Dear GalacticBusDriver,
God does love and care for you. We are in a time of grace and He sent us His Son so that we might believe and be saved. The Lord doesn't often send us an in your face sign, He calls us to be faithful. Read the account of Thomas where Jesus said, "Blessed are those who have never seen yet believe."

(June 14, 2014 at 12:51 pm)Losty Wrote: What is it about my avatar that you don't like?

It has those icky, sex-stuff connotations and as we all know, christers aren't allowed to be comfortable with sex or sexuality.

Also: No bombs or bullets or armies will stop god?

Yes they they will. You can't prove that they won't, either. Our nukes are more powerful than your god.