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(June 28, 2014 at 6:20 pm)blackout94 Wrote: Gay marriage is a right. I keep in mind that our constitution is pretty clear. The right to pursue happiness. We don't have to agree with it, but it is a right constitutionally.

I too support gay marriage but be careful with the argument of happiness, it can be used for good and bad purposes

The right to pursue happiness isn't in the Constitution. Read it and see. Then check out the Declaration of Independence. ---- reading further reveals others got here first.

(July 3, 2014 at 1:26 am)Jenny A Wrote:

(June 28, 2014 at 6:20 pm)blackout94 Wrote: Gay marriage is a right. I keep in mind that our constitution is pretty clear. The right to pursue happiness. We don't have to agree with it, but it is a right constitutionally.

I too support gay marriage but be careful with the argument of happiness, it can be used for good and bad purposes

The right to pursue happiness isn't in the Constitution. Read it and see. Then check out the Declaration of Independence. ---- reading further reveals others got here first.

I've never read the Portugal constitution, but I thought he was referring to that. I could be wrong.

(July 3, 2014 at 2:37 am)Losty Wrote:

(July 3, 2014 at 1:26 am)Jenny A Wrote: The right to pursue happiness isn't in the Constitution. Read it and see. Then check out the Declaration of Independence. ---- reading further reveals others got here first.

I've never read the Portugal constitution, but I thought he was referring to that. I could be wrong.

Don't waste your time reading almost 300 articles with little use for your country. We don't have the right to happiness, we have the right to pursue fulfillment, we must give people equal opportunities and chances but we can't force them to be happy/fulfilled. I personally like our constitution even though I agree with scholars it has a slightly larger socialist/left wing connotation, maybe because it was done after a fascist regime.

No, that is true, it isn't in the constitution, but it is the embodiment of the spirit of this country and covered in Amendment IX.


Amendment IX - Construction of Constitution. Ratified 12/15/1791.
The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

Funnily enough, those trying to stop gays should be challengeable for denying the RELIGIOUS rights of gays to marry. Since most gays are likely to be some kind of theist, those whom try to marry clearly believe they are allowed to get married. And since you guys want to argue that marriage is a religious institution, you're infringing on gays' religious rights.


Oh but wait, your religious rights trump their's, I bet? Because fuck consistency, homosexuality is icky and I want to pretend I'm not being childish. You guys have nothing.

Marriage has been around far longer than christianity.