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should america support Israel?
RE: should america support Israel?
(July 13, 2014 at 1:48 pm)bberryhill0 Wrote: You have to go back further to the Ottoman Empire. The boundaries were redrawn to benefit the colonial powers. Money always trumps religion. But yes, religion needs to be removed from the equation. Let the religious zealots draw their own boundaries. However that changes the dynamics of oil. God put our oil under their sand so we have to stay involved. It's the Christian thing to do. God gave us dominion over that oil so we must do God's will despite the savages quibbling over where they will live. We are God's chosen people.

No shit money trumps religion, which is why religion needs to be treated like a poison because it prevents humans from focusing on all corruption. Take away religion as the heat shield to money, you give the power back to the people instead of allowing money to sell utopias to maintain their power.
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Now you're talking about a complete upending of the social order. How do you control the little people if they don't believe that life will be better when they are dead?!? Might makes right and money makes might, thus money is right. Ideally it would be best to eliminate the 99% of people who are poor but then who would cook my dinner and change my sheets?
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RE: should america support Israel?
(July 13, 2014 at 2:49 pm)bberryhill0 Wrote: Now you're talking about a complete upending of the social order. How do you control the little people if they don't believe that life will be better when they are dead?!? Might makes right and money makes might, thus money is right. Ideally it would be best to eliminate the 99% of people who are poor but then who would cook my dinner and change my sheets?

No I am not, I am taking away delusions of utopias that don't exist.
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How do you know that utopia doesn't exist? Have you died?
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Dafuq? lol.......
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: should america support Israel?
Yeah, I don't even...
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The only utopia that I know of that religion talks about is after you die. THEN life gets better, unless you go to Hell. Either way you will suffer until you die.
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RE: should america support Israel?
(July 13, 2014 at 2:21 pm)Brian37 Wrote: No shit money trumps religion, which is why religion needs to be treated like a poison because it prevents humans from focusing on all corruption. Take away religion as the heat shield to money, you give the power back to the people instead of allowing money to sell utopias to maintain their power.

It you think this is true take a look at at every communist country that ever existed and show me how the power was given back to the people. The "people" lost any bit of power that they had before. Now look at countries that developed with large christian majorities and compare them to the communist countries.
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The "people" in "Christian" countries have no more power than the people in "Communist" countries. More freedom maybe but no power. The .01% always have the power.
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RE: should america support Israel?
(July 13, 2014 at 10:30 pm)Lek Wrote: It you think this is true take a look at at every communist country that ever existed and show me how the power was given back to the people. The "people" lost any bit of power that they had before. Now look at countries that developed with large christian majorities and compare them to the communist countries.
"Communism" and "large christian majority" aren't in the same sets, you would be comparing apples to oranges. Try comparing "communism" to "democracy", you might find it more informative and less embarrassing. If you want to bring your christian majority into the arena, and if you thought that the christianity bit was somehow informative - then we'd be talking about a theocracy. So, I suppose we could look at Iran (close, but not quite) and the old USSR (not even remotely close but I doubt you care) and say "yep - both shitholes, glad the christian majority didn't get their way in the US".

Take notes, there's going to be a test.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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