(August 4, 2014 at 9:21 pm)Cato Wrote:You hear this type of statement all the time (even from the famous and intelligent atheist Lawrence Krauss).(August 4, 2014 at 9:09 pm)Mozart Link Wrote: Again, life has no meaning and is whatever meaning you give it.
Why don't you resolve this contradiction and get back to us.
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Try and prove me wrong on this...
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Methinks you might find the word "intrinsic" helpful in there somewhere.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
Why would we want to prove you wrong?
You seem to know what you want. (I think)
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear.  (August 4, 2014 at 9:23 pm)Mozart Link Wrote:(August 4, 2014 at 9:21 pm)Cato Wrote: Why don't you resolve this contradiction and get back to us.You hear this type of statement all the time (even from the famous and intelligent atheist Lawrence Krauss). Do you really not know how to take this? Despite the difficulty, I'll assume for a moment that you're not intentionally being tedious. I'm sure if you go back and find people saying something along the lines of "life has no meaning" it will be in response to someone asserting "there must be something greater than us, we must survive death, why are we here, etc". In context it means that human life in and of itself has no meaning, we aren't here by design, we never had to be. This is very different from assigning value to things and discovering what is meaningful to your particular existence. That said, if you insist on maintaining your juvenile conclusion that life is meaningless unless your pleasure is maximized, I wish you luck in your misery.  (August 4, 2014 at 6:16 pm)Luckie Wrote: What.. The fuck... Is this thread about? A self absorbed twat pissing and moaning about how his own happiness is more important to him than anything else in the world. I think that sums it up. 
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If the OP takes great pleasure from arguing on an anonymous forum, he/she needs to raise the bar slightly.
Since we are all in agreeance that life is an unintentional accident, let's all just do whatever the fuck we want to make ourselves happy! Come to think of it, that's exactly.what we do!
No God, No fear.
Know God, Know fear. 
Mozart. Why are you responding to everyone else? I have been respectful to you. I have asked you to clarify for me what you're trying to say. If you want to have a serious conversation about your view, then why are you ignoring me?
 (August 4, 2014 at 6:16 pm)Luckie Wrote: What.. The fuck... Is this thread about?About six pages too long, by my estimation.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould RE: Try and prove me wrong on this...
August 5, 2014 at 6:27 am
(This post was last modified: August 5, 2014 at 6:28 am by Mozart Link.)
Since when I die, I will go nowhere in the end and there is no God or afterlife of eternal joy, then maybe I shouldn't feel so bad and have such value towards pleasure and life itself since obviously none of these things have value anyway. Because if they were something special with value, it would all have an afterlife of eternal joy and a God granted for these things in the end. So maybe instead, I should just not care about anything and end my life since I have severe anhedonia which makes my life that much more meaningless and not worth living to me.
I seek ultimate power and status and such just like a powerful anime villan. If I can't obtain these things (obviously life has completely prevented me from obtaining these things by not only giving me anhedonia and taking away my one and only source of true power and such which would be pleasure, but also has denied me the other as well which would be an afterlife and a God in the end), then life is nothing to me and I might as well just end it. I have to admit, I admired my attitude of seeking ultimate status and power and such through those things, but at this point, none of these things can be obtained and my attitude and life no longer matters.
Lower your standards and you'll feel a whole lot happier.
Everything is relative. There are millionaires who commit suicide and happy little indian kids playing with their friends in cesspools! You and I are somewhere in between. I take pleasure from having a good meal, a nice drink and a nice big shit! what's not to like? hehe. In all honesty, it's usually ego related. We need to readjust who we think we are and humble right down to what we're actually capable of achieving and sustaining. If you want to be seen as a genuine hero, go to a third world country and help their community. It will also drastically change you, one would think?
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