(August 5, 2014 at 6:27 am)Mozart Link Wrote: So maybe instead, I should just not care about anything and end my life since I have severe anhedonia which makes my life that much more meaningless and not worth living to me.

What type of anhedonia?

I agree with ignoramus, lowering expectations works, I started doing that and now I feel a lot happier, I get pleasure from the small day-to-day activities. It's worth a shot

(August 5, 2014 at 8:12 am)ignoramus Wrote: Lower your standards and you'll feel a whole lot happier.
Everything is relative. There are millionaires who commit suicide and happy little indian kids playing with their friends in cesspools!
You and I are somewhere in between. I take pleasure from having a good meal, a nice drink and a nice big shit! what's not to like? hehe.

In all honesty, it's usually ego related. We need to readjust who we think we are and humble right down to what we're actually capable of achieving and sustaining.
If you want to be seen as a genuine hero, go to a third world country and help their community. It will also drastically change you, one would think?

It's like I said, my severe anhedonia is a chronic condition that is there all the time 24/7 and there is no way to bring myself any amount of pleasure whatsoever whether it be through helping others or doing anything else in life. Even medication and such does not help at all.

Without pleasure, then nothing in life matters to me including helping others and I might as well just end my life at this point. If I did have pleasure, then these things would matter to me.

It sounds pretty serious man...didn't mean to speak lightly of it.
is it strictly in the head or physiological? or because of the position you are in right now?

You've obviously explored all options? What are they? (Death is not one of them!)

(August 5, 2014 at 8:57 am)ignoramus Wrote: It sounds pretty serious man...didn't mean to speak lightly of it.
is it strictly in the head or physiological? or because of the position you are in right now?

You've obviously explored all options? What are they? (Death is not one of them!)

It all happened as a result of a panic disorder and has nothing to do with the negative thoughts and such I am having now.

Therapy would be another option, but that has failed as well.

Mozart, what do others with that dehabilitation do to cope? Have you sought out any groups where you can seek advice and support from those dealing with the same or similar issues? Do you own any books that discuss it and/or offer possible solutions?

All things--pleasure and pain--are transient and come in varying degrees. There's always hope that even if you feel like you're getting nothing out of life, life still has something to get out of you.

Mozart, I apologize for being so harsh in my earlier remarks. Your condition is nothing to take lightly. I wish you had mentioned your diagnosis upfront. I hope you are able to find a useful course of treatment. What specifically has been tried to date?

The fact that this life is basically pure luck (fortune) and that whether a person lives a happy life or a life of suffering is basically pure luck and that they have basically no choice in the matter is complete bullshit. Innocent people should choose how they want to live and choose whether they wish to suffer or not. The fact that innocent people who suffer from things they have no choice in the matter such as diseases and mental illnesses and are people just simply considered "unfortunate" in the eyes of the universe while people who are spoiled and don't have such suffering and live happy lives are considered "fortunate" is what makes this life (universe) utterly pathetic and worthless. The "true" life (universe) would allow us to completely choose the way we want to live and consider us as human beings and grant us an afterlife and a God. As for making the best of my life as it is, there is no pleasure whatsoever that I can even use in making the best of my life at all.

(August 5, 2014 at 3:01 pm)Mozart Link Wrote: The "true" life (universe) would allow us to completely choose the way we want to live and consider us as human beings and grant us an afterlife and a God.

Totally lost me there.

(August 5, 2014 at 3:01 pm)Mozart Link Wrote: The fact that this life is basically pure luck (fortune) and that whether a person lives a happy life or a life of suffering is basically pure luck and that they have basically no choice in the matter is complete bullshit. Innocent people should choose how they want to live and choose whether they wish to suffer or not. The fact that innocent people who suffer from things they have no choice in the matter such as diseases and mental illnesses and are people just simply considered "unfortunate" in the eyes of the universe while people who are spoiled and don't have such suffering and live happy lives are considered "fortunate" is what makes this life (universe) utterly pathetic and worthless. The "true" life (universe) would allow us to completely choose the way we want to live and consider us as human beings and grant us an afterlife and a God. As for making the best of my life as it is, there is no pleasure whatsoever that I can even use in making the best of my life at all.

You're right that the Universe, and as far as we know, our earth, is the source of all misery, pain, injustice, sorrow, etc. But it is also the source of all love, compassion, joy, etc. You can always focus on the negatives but there's a lot of positives to focus on too. Think about what you're capable of doing for others given that you have a keen sense of the misery so many must endure (including yourself). You may not have the pleasure in life that you think you deserve, but I bet you sure as hell have a lot of empathy, and who knows, perhaps you might even find a small amount of pleasure in exercising it through service to others? (Please don't think I'm being presumptuous in what you do or don't do, I'm merely trying to offer a different perspective than the one you're giving).