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RE: should america support Israel?
August 7, 2014 at 5:32 pm
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(August 7, 2014 at 5:22 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Quote:Obviously this cycle will never end. We have to remove the "limited" and make the bombings so atrocious, so inconceivably horrible that no one will ever want a repeat.
Well, certainly not by -perpetuating- the cycle, no. I'm not really certain that it works that way with human beings, we have short memories for conflict and suffering. Bomb them into dust today and a few generations later they come back even harder - claiming the bombing as the new offense.
The latest round of bombings have been more devastating than any of the previous ones, and it seems that have some effects...
Egyptian news report claims that Palestinians attacked Sami Abu Zuhri out of anger at Hamas for causing the latest round of violence ...
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RE: should america support Israel?
August 7, 2014 at 5:35 pm
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Pretty sure there has always been such a current of thought. It would be surprising if there weren't. So, you looking to bomb those folks as well - that would attack a Hamas official? Similarly, are you okay with walling them in under military rule?
Maybe the isrealis could go extract those folks? They're obviously "the good guys".
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RE: should america support Israel?
August 7, 2014 at 5:59 pm
(August 7, 2014 at 5:35 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Pretty sure there has always been such a current of thought. It would be surprising if there weren't. So, you looking to bomb those folks as well - that would attack a Hamas official? Similarly, are you okay with walling them in under military rule?
Maybe the isrealis could go extract those folks? They're obviously "the good guys".
That some Palestinians are blaming their own government, instead of the Israelis, in spite of the carnage they just suffered, is refreshing.
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RE: should america support Israel?
August 7, 2014 at 6:03 pm
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I'm not sure where you get your news, but that wasn't news to me. You watch Al Jazeera or some shit?
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RE: should america support Israel?
August 7, 2014 at 6:24 pm
(August 7, 2014 at 6:03 pm)Rhythm Wrote: I'm not sure where you get your news, but that wasn't news to me. You watch Al Jazeera or some shit?
It's all over the net. Just google it.
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RE: should america support Israel?
August 7, 2014 at 7:17 pm
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Well there's your problem. You know there are alot of whining assholes on the internet, right?
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RE: should america support Israel?
August 7, 2014 at 7:38 pm
(August 7, 2014 at 7:17 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Well there's your problem. You know there are alot of whining assholes on the internet, right?
Of course, the net would be the last place one would want the news... 
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RE: should america support Israel?
August 7, 2014 at 7:53 pm
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Buddy, even the WINEP has been covering polls showing that gazans have, at various times - been opposed to the policies of Hamas (and generally opposed to anti-semetism period). They're hardly an unbiased source (or so their critics often claim), and one would expect them to decry the evils of the palestinian people at every opportunity (ahem). They've been doing this for as long as I can remember (which, for the record, is running on three decades now). So, I guess it's time for me to turn that comment of yours around and suggest that you "educate yourself", eh?
Or - and this is well within your rights, you can continue to call for the blood of palestinians, like a common warmonger.
/my participation in this thread
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RE: should america support Israel?
August 8, 2014 at 7:50 am
(August 7, 2014 at 7:53 pm)Rhythm Wrote: ... and this is well within your rights, you can continue to call for the blood of palestinians, like a common warmonger.
/my participation in this thread
And you can tell your Palestinian friends to stop calling for the blood of the Israelis, as it would be a good and necessary start for the violence to stop.
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RE: should america support Israel?
August 8, 2014 at 9:01 am
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(August 7, 2014 at 4:49 pm)little_monkey Wrote: Sure, when you can no longer defend your position, resort to ad hominem. Yep, that's really creative. SNORK...
Considering the fact that you won't own your deliberate misstatements of my position, and your insistent refusal to read what has been written; considering your attachment to the excluded-middle fallacy; and considering your tone throughout this conversation, I don't consider myself obliged to show you much courtesy.
This is not a matter of not beoing able to defend my position. This is a matter of you refusing to see any points other than your own.
Of course, you won't own that, either.
So, exactly how many millions would you like killed? One? Two? Three?
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