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Christians. Could you be wrong?
RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
(September 17, 2014 at 3:48 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: I don't really know of any conditions, but here is a question that challenged me. How can you follow someone(Jesus) without knowing who they are.

If all you know about someone is what you've heard and all you perceive of them is generated between your ears, the only thing you can follow is your idea of the person.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
(September 17, 2014 at 4:29 pm)Rhythm Wrote:
(September 17, 2014 at 4:25 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: So... what?
So..an answer to any of the questions proposed. Why aren;t you walking yourself to jail, do you deserve to be in jail, and why are you looking to shirk the hell that you are certain you deserve?

Quote:If we rose up to that bar every single person in the world would be in jail.
-and? If everyone deserves to be in jail........then everyone should be in jail, don't you think? Is there some crime that, when it;s committed by a bunch of people, we say "Okay, we're only going to prosecute the first 5 people we collar, the rest are clear"?

When we are sins will be justified unless we have excepted God's forgiveness.

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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
That answers which of the questions you quoted?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
(September 17, 2014 at 4:31 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote:
(September 17, 2014 at 3:48 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: I don't really know of any conditions, but here is a question that challenged me. How can you follow someone(Jesus) without knowing who they are.

If all you know about someone is what you've heard and all you perceive of them is generated between your ears, the only thing you can follow is your idea of the person.
The gospels are an eye witness account of Jesus' life, I know who he is from that.

It answers all of them.

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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
Guys, guys, guys...... Here, try this. [Image: passing-joint-smiley-emoticon.gif]
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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
(September 17, 2014 at 3:50 pm)C4RM5 Wrote:
(September 17, 2014 at 2:18 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: There seems to be a disconnect between 'I am valued' and 'I deserve to suffer in hell if I don't worship God'. I worshiping God the only value you have, and without it you're not only worthless, but deserve eternal torture?
I don't really see a disconnection, I deserve to suffer in Hell for my sins but because we are valued we are offered forgiveness

What infinite crimes have you committed that deserve infinite punishment. What have you done that, at a trillion trillion trillion years from now, your suffering will have only just begun unless you use your 'get out of hell free card'?

I'm VERY curious. I'd think a trillion trillion trillion years would suffice for Hitler.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.
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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
(September 17, 2014 at 4:31 pm)ShaMan Wrote:
(September 17, 2014 at 4:30 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: Do they serve Gluten free?
Yes. Anything you like - this one's on me.

I would have felt sad if they didn't.

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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
Lying, gossiping, and hating MA, those are his crimes. They're not bad enough for him to be in a county jail - and he isn't interested in accepting responsibility for them after his death either.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
(September 17, 2014 at 4:34 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote:
(September 17, 2014 at 3:50 pm)C4RM5 Wrote: I don't really see a disconnection, I deserve to suffer in Hell for my sins but because we are valued we are offered forgiveness

What infinite crimes have you committed that deserve infinite punishment. What have you done that, at trillion trillion trillion years from now, your suffering will have only just begun unless you use your 'get out of hell free card'?

I'm VERY curious. I'd think a trillion trillion trillion years would suffice for Hitler.

I think the question should be what haven't I done.
You are also punishiable for not doing things in life, for example denying God.

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RE: Christians. Could you be wrong?
(September 17, 2014 at 4:37 pm)C4RM5 Wrote:
(September 17, 2014 at 4:34 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: What infinite crimes have you committed that deserve infinite punishment. What have you done that, at trillion trillion trillion years from now, your suffering will have only just begun unless you use your 'get out of hell free card'?

I'm VERY curious. I'd think a trillion trillion trillion years would suffice for Hitler.

I think the question should be what haven't I done.
You are also punishiable for not doing things in life, for example denying God.
So the whole "jesus dying for my sins" isn't all that effective then, if I am still going to hell just for not believing in him.
In every country and every age, the priest had been hostile to Liberty.
- Thomas Jefferson
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