(September 28, 2014 at 5:16 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:

(September 28, 2014 at 4:08 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: A is a Christian. Person B is an Atheist.

Person A and Person B have about the same good deeds and bad deeds.

Person A feels bad about their sins. Person B also feels bad about their sins. Both regret it.

Both however feel good about what they've done as good deeds, they being far more.

How does accepting the sacrifice of Christ make a person A feel less guilty that person B?

Dang OK I'll try again.

The perspective would be very different.

B is thinking in human terms. His interactivity is with his immediate reality.

A is thinking of Gods perspective as perfect love.

What matters to B is not the same as what matters to A. What one regards as good doesn't have the scope of the other.

Good doesn't even count for anything when done for personal reasons.

Accepting the sacrifice, A acknowledges the greater perspective. Denying the sacrifice, B keeps his perspective in check.

How'd I do?

(September 29, 2014 at 9:21 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Trolling is beneath you. Are you always like this when you get frustrated? It's a shame, because your other posts since I took you off block were quite good.

(September 29, 2014 at 12:13 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: If it is indeed scapegoating. If it isn't then we're good to go right.

(September 29, 2014 at 1:03 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote:

(September 29, 2014 at 9:21 am)fr0d0 Wrote: Trolling is beneath you. Are you always like this when you get frustrated? It's a shame, because your other posts since I took you off block were quite good.

Is irony above you? It's kind of like the pot calling the kettle black, no? Do you serve any other purpose on these forums besides confirming the common perception that Christianity thrives on dishonest idiots? Because clearly, you're not doing your cause any favors by evading crucial questions with childish responses.

(September 29, 2014 at 1:30 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:

(September 29, 2014 at 1:03 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: Is irony above you? It's kind of like the pot calling the kettle black, no? Do you serve any other purpose on these forums besides confirming the common perception that Christianity thrives on dishonest idiots? Because clearly, you're not doing your cause any favors by evading crucial questions with childish responses.

You mean "yes".

(September 20, 2014 at 4:40 pm)whateverist Wrote: Don't get me wrong, I'm agnostic too. Very much so in fact.

But 'militant' agnostics, like a certain new member whose user name cuts a little close to home, tick me off. Please tell me what it is you think you know about what these god-things are that makes you argue so vociferously against non-belief in them.

I get agnosticism. I don't get anti-atheism. What is that about? Personally I have no more trouble with agnostic theists than I do agnostic atheists. These are my peoples.

Anti-atheist agnostics, like their brethren atheist anti-theists, carry around huge axes to grind. Both talk proudly of reasoned argument and evidence. But both are obviously more animated by emotional bile than any reason they actually own up to. Both are obviously working through issues which cloud their judgment.

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(September 29, 2014 at 1:17 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Accurate assessment must be one of those "flaws" christianity has helped you to overcome. My condolences.