(October 24, 2014 at 8:02 pm)Brian37 Wrote: http://www.amnesty.org.au/action/action/35728/

Woman stabs someone, her defence is "attempted rape" and suddenly you call her a "rape victim"???

BAIT AND SWITCH.

(October 25, 2014 at 1:49 am)Aractus Wrote:

(October 24, 2014 at 8:02 pm)Brian37 Wrote: http://www.amnesty.org.au/action/action/35728/

Woman stabs someone, her defence is "attempted rape" and suddenly you call her a "rape victim"???

BAIT AND SWITCH.

Um so she does not have the right to defend herself? Amnesty International I do not think would have credibility if it took cases it did not investigate.

No bait and switch, if someone attempts to sexually assault you their success or failure to do so is no less traumatic, so yes, she is a victim.

Do you know the woman who inspired the movie "The Burning Bed"? She killed her abusive husband, when he was unarmed and asleep. She originally got convicted of murder. Why? Because back then society looked the other way and coddled abuse of women, and she had no way out and lived in fear every single day.

Now here you are defending a climate where women are not allowed to defend themselves against assault. FUCK YOU.

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You make this about one case and in reality it is about Islam treating women like property. If someone tried to attack me, and I feared for my physical safety, damned fucking right I would stab you. Iran isn't allowing her that defense for the same reason in America for far too long, raping your wife and beating your wife or girlfriend, in America was considered a family issue and was blamed on the woman.

If they put her to death for this, they are sending a message to women, that they are second class, and they have no say in how men treat them.

MOTHRFUCKERS DID IT!

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-29769468

Exactly what is the evidence that shows she actually did kill in self defense? And not in spite, jealousy, or pure malice? If everyone's alibi is to equally given credibility without specific evidence, justice system can't operate.

It's a Muslim country, men act as if they've never seen women. So sexual harassment and the like are more common.

(October 25, 2014 at 12:42 pm)DramaQueen Wrote: It's a Muslim country, men act as if they've never seen women. So sexual harassment and the like are more common.

That doesn't prove she in particular was assaulted.

(October 25, 2014 at 12:50 pm)Chuck Wrote:

(October 25, 2014 at 12:42 pm)DramaQueen Wrote: It's a Muslim country, men act as if they've never seen women. So sexual harassment and the like are more common.

That doesn't prove she in particular was assaulted.

Indeed it is hard to second guess a case on so little information given. The only thing to say at this point is that I have little faith in the Iranian legal system what I've seen is insufficient to make a call.

Saying that I am against, capital punishment anyway.

I meant it's very possible

(October 25, 2014 at 12:54 pm)DramaQueen Wrote: I meant it's very possible

It's hard to say how possible it is given we have little access to the details of the case. In general a country's justice system, whatever it's reputation amongst foreigners, is not not obliged to prove to the satisfaction of foreigners it made the right judgement.

I find this disgusting but I need evidence before I believe it.