(December 11, 2014 at 8:16 am)Brian37 Wrote:

(December 10, 2014 at 11:27 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: Communication is a two-way street. The braying donkey ought not complain about annoyed listeners; the wise speaker tailors his message to his audience.

In what context?

Nothing to debate when you say "The earth rotates around the sun".

I am not speaking in code. Again, not my baggage.

Just trying to help, Brian. Take it or leave it as you see fit.

(December 10, 2014 at 7:30 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: well, whilst the removal of the tsar was probably a good thing, I don't think we can say that how they did it and what followed was really good or a success...

Yes, but you can say the same about the French. The head chopping got a little out of hand there too.

(December 11, 2014 at 10:06 am)Parkers Tan Wrote:

(December 11, 2014 at 8:16 am)Brian37 Wrote: In what context?

Nothing to debate when you say "The earth rotates around the sun".

I am not speaking in code. Again, not my baggage.

Just trying to help, Brian. Take it or leave it as you see fit.

Um no.

Evolution is not something you "take or leave". Our human behavior that leads us to gap fill and make bad claims is rooted in our evolution. It is not up to me. The evidence to flawed perceptions that lead to bad claims is in science. Not our personal labels or legal rights.

I don't need advice in saying the earth rotates around the sun either. Neil DeGrasse Tyson has said it before and it deserves repeating, "'The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it.'

(December 11, 2014 at 11:30 am)Brian37 Wrote: I don't need advice in saying the earth rotates around the sun either.

Neil deGrasse Tyson would also pick a bone with you about this statement.

Personally ibthink we should do away with the queen altogether.

(December 11, 2014 at 11:30 am)Brian37 Wrote:

(December 11, 2014 at 10:06 am)Parkers Tan Wrote: Just trying to help, Brian. Take it or leave it as you see fit.

Um no.

Evolution is not something you "take or leave". Our human behavior that leads us to gap fill and make bad claims is rooted in our evolution. It is not up to me. The evidence to flawed perceptions that lead to bad claims is in science. Not our personal labels or legal rights.

I don't need advice in saying the earth rotates around the sun either. Neil DeGrasse Tyson has said it before and it deserves repeating, "'The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it.'

Maslow's Hammer comes to mind.

(December 11, 2014 at 11:37 am)Cato Wrote:

(December 11, 2014 at 11:30 am)Brian37 Wrote: I don't need advice in saying the earth rotates around the sun either.

Neil deGrasse Tyson would also pick a bone with you about this statement.

Huh? The earth spins on its access and because of the gravity of the sun it orbits around the sun, and the solar system itself orbits around the center of the galaxy.

Maybe you were being a bit pedantic.

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(December 11, 2014 at 1:02 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote:

(December 11, 2014 at 11:30 am)Brian37 Wrote: Um no.

Evolution is not something you "take or leave". Our human behavior that leads us to gap fill and make bad claims is rooted in our evolution. It is not up to me. The evidence to flawed perceptions that lead to bad claims is in science. Not our personal labels or legal rights.

I don't need advice in saying the earth rotates around the sun either. Neil DeGrasse Tyson has said it before and it deserves repeating, "'The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it.'

Maslow's Hammer comes to mind.

No. The "hammer" is scientific method. Religion is no more a tool than a kaleidoscope can replace a telescope.

Religion and faith are results of human's flawed perceptions. They are not tools. They are placebos.

(December 11, 2014 at 1:03 pm)Brian37 Wrote:

(December 11, 2014 at 11:37 am)Cato Wrote: Neil deGrasse Tyson would also pick a bone with you about this statement.

Huh? The earth spins on its access and because of the gravity of the sun it orbits around the sun, and the solar system itself orbits around the center of the galaxy.

Maybe you were being a bit pedantic.

Pedantic? You either don't know what pedantic means or are intentionally misusing it in an effort to avoid admitting you made a mistake. The word you should have used is revolves, not rotates. This is basic elementary school knowledge; hardly a pedantic...geez.

To be truly pedantic, the Sun and the Earth (along with the rest of the Solar System) orbit each other around the barycentre, the common centre of mass.

(December 11, 2014 at 1:26 pm)Cato Wrote:

(December 11, 2014 at 1:03 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Huh? The earth spins on its access and because of the gravity of the sun it orbits around the sun, and the solar system itself orbits around the center of the galaxy.

Maybe you were being a bit pedantic.

Pedantic? You either don't know what pedantic means or are intentionally misusing it in an effort to avoid admitting you made a mistake. The word you should have used is revolves, not rotates. This is basic elementary school knowledge; hardly a pedantic...geez.

Holy crap, yes you were being picky. "Revolves" yadda yadda yadda. It revolves around the sun as it rotates on it's access.