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RE: If Only The Romans
December 30, 2014 at 8:57 pm
What writings from those that walked with him?
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RE: If Only The Romans
December 30, 2014 at 9:30 pm
Quote: Minimalist Wrote: Save the Jews from what?
Eternal condemnation.
Then he fucked that up too.
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RE: If Only The Romans
December 30, 2014 at 11:33 pm
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(December 29, 2014 at 6:11 pm)Lek Wrote: What I'm trying to say is that we all have received the death sentence from God, not just the Amalekites.
Suppose for a moment that you committed an offense, say, felony burglary, carrying a sentence of three to five years in the state pen. Would you consider it just for the state to try, and sentence, your son, even though the state already had you sentenced? What if the state decided that as part of your punishment, you had to stand and watch as they threw him off of a cliff. You got to hear his cries and know that he was being killed despite not having committed any crime, and despite the accused not having committed a capital crime.
Your god does that. Your god inflicts his sentence on toddlers with leukemia, on fetuses with hydroencephaly (even as his worshipers talk about the right to life!), on humans who are blameless except for the fact that your god created them so that he could kill them -- even if they live their lives exactly as he prescribed. He was uunhappy with his own creations, so instead of using his almighty power to better them even as they lived, he killed them all but seven -- and then demanded blood sacrifice when they hadn't improved despite his inaction. Your god has killed every human who has ever lived, according to your own theology.
This is why I consider your god a monster.
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RE: If Only The Romans
December 30, 2014 at 11:42 pm
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(December 30, 2014 at 8:57 pm)Rhythm Wrote: What writings from those that walked with him?
Peter, John and James. Their books are from the new testament of the bible.
(December 30, 2014 at 11:33 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: Suppose for a moment that you committed an offense, say, felony burglary, carrying a sentence of three to five years in the state pen. Would you consider it just for the state to try, and sentence, your son, even though the state already had you sentenced? What if the state decided that as part of your punishment, you had to stand and watch as they threw him off of a cliff. You got to hear his cries and know that he was being killed despite not having committed any crime, and despite the accused not having committed a capital crime.
Your god does that. Your god inflicts his sentence on toddlers with leukemia, on fetuses with hydroencephaly (even as his worshipers talk about the right to life!), on humans who are blameless except for the fact that your god created them so that he could kill them -- even if they live their lives exactly as he prescribed. He was uunhappy with his own creations, so instead of using his almighty power to better them even as they lived, he killed them all but seven -- and then demanded blood sacrifice when they hadn't improved despite his inaction. Your god has killed every human who has ever lived, according to your own theology.
This is why I consider your god a monster.
My God has prepared a home for us. All you've got is to live with all that same terrible stuff - who knows why - and to die. The universe itself is a monster. All this suffering and death for no reason at all. You can have it.
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RE: If Only The Romans
December 31, 2014 at 12:17 am
(December 30, 2014 at 11:42 pm)Lek Wrote: (December 30, 2014 at 8:57 pm)Rhythm Wrote: What writings from those that walked with him?
Peter, John and James. Their books are from the new testament of the bible.
(December 30, 2014 at 11:33 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: Suppose for a moment that you committed an offense, say, felony burglary, carrying a sentence of three to five years in the state pen. Would you consider it just for the state to try, and sentence, your son, even though the state already had you sentenced? What if the state decided that as part of your punishment, you had to stand and watch as they threw him off of a cliff. You got to hear his cries and know that he was being killed despite not having committed any crime, and despite the accused not having committed a capital crime.
Your god does that. Your god inflicts his sentence on toddlers with leukemia, on fetuses with hydroencephaly (even as his worshipers talk about the right to life!), on humans who are blameless except for the fact that your god created them so that he could kill them -- even if they live their lives exactly as he prescribed. He was uunhappy with his own creations, so instead of using his almighty power to better them even as they lived, he killed them all but seven -- and then demanded blood sacrifice when they hadn't improved despite his inaction. Your god has killed every human who has ever lived, according to your own theology.
This is why I consider your god a monster.
My God has prepared a home for us. All you've got is to live with all that same terrible stuff - who knows why - and to die. The universe itself is a monster. All this suffering and death for no reason at all. You can have it.
Leave the universe out of it because its not a monster lets just say be glad you are a human. Because we would have never existed as such beings if it wasn't for the chance well luck we are here today.
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RE: If Only The Romans
December 31, 2014 at 12:28 am
(December 30, 2014 at 11:42 pm)Lek Wrote: My God has prepared a home for us. All you've got is to live with all that same terrible stuff - who knows why - and to die. The universe itself is a monster. All this suffering and death for no reason at all. You can have it.
Who made that Universe, according to your beliefs? Who made all men with their fallible human nature? Who created evil?
Who?
Answer me.
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RE: If Only The Romans
December 31, 2014 at 6:47 am
(December 30, 2014 at 11:42 pm)Lek Wrote: My God has prepared a home for us. All you've got is to live with all that same terrible stuff - who knows why - and to die. The universe itself is a monster. All this suffering and death for no reason at all. You can have it. And you're trusting the horrifying person who created it all to "prepare a home for" you. I don't think the story ends the way you expect it to.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
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RE: If Only The Romans
December 31, 2014 at 8:59 am
(December 30, 2014 at 8:06 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Yeah, he helped her eventually, after she begged and pleaded enough for his liking. Does that seem like the actions of a loving being?
Sounds like something satan would do.
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RE: If Only The Romans
December 31, 2014 at 10:05 am
(December 30, 2014 at 11:42 pm)Lek Wrote: Peter, John and James. Their books are from the new testament of the bible. Yeah, I kinda figured you were discussing fiction but I had to ask, decorum.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: If Only The Romans
December 31, 2014 at 12:59 pm
(December 31, 2014 at 12:17 am)dyresand Wrote: Leave the universe out of it because its not a monster lets just say be glad you are a human. Because we would have never existed as such beings if it wasn't for the chance well luck we are here today.
With all the terrible stuff in the world why should I consider myself lucky to be here? According to the testimony of people here, the world is filled with terrible suffering and misery. I guess, though, when you take God out of the equation, then it's all really okay.
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