Here's why Creatards might be right

[jenny1972]

I'm not concerned about your embarrassment, or how your beliefs are perceived by others.  I assume that your beliefs are important -to you.  I assume that your pride is important -to you.  

Look, Jen.  I have no fucking clue what you're rambling on about.  I'm honored that you would think, even for a moment, that I'm the author of reason, that I create and control the rules of inference.  I don't.  It seemed, since you refer constantly to your reason, and evidence......that those standards where important- to you.  

Good idea..there at the end.  Google it.  Try to avoid "godbotherer.com" when you go looking for lessons in reason or logic, though.  Down that road lay only tears and misery.  I was being sarcastic, btw, about your non-conformity.  You conform completely to the mold of every ID apologist we've ever had on these boards.  Seems like that's something you'd probably like to work on, while you're googling.

im sure you fantasize that your the author of reason and created and control those special rules of inference that you worship , but i never thought that even for a moment stop projecting , and no i wasnt obsessed with (or thought important) reason or evidence you were in fact i said i did not have any evidence and also that i thought noone could have when it came to this topic  . although you think i should be embarrassed im really not in the least my pride has not been hurt at all by my lack of evidence or failure to comply with your beloved structure .... i really dont think i will go looking for lessons to try and please your obsessive controlling nature but google is a good resource and i use it if i have a need to learn about that ill check it out since you want me to avoid godbotherer.com i think i will go there first 

[TheRocketSurgeon]

Abiogenesis is how the first replicator molecule happened; evolution is what happened once those replicators started mutating during replication and/or dying off due to competition and environmental factors that disproportionately favored some versions over others. They're somewhat the same thing, since both are the effect of biochemistry in action, but one is not required for the other.

Technically, Xenu could have dropped a turd out of his spacecraft's lavatory on the way past the early earth, and 4+ billion years later, those turd-bacteria became everything we see on earth. It still begs the question of how life first emerged to make Xenu, but as far as evolution goes, it doesn't matter if life arrived here or formed here; we just have no reason to think it didn't form here, based on what we already know of the formation of aqueous lipid layers into protocells, what we already know about interstellar ices forming precursor molecules to what's in earth's organic chemistry set, and what we know about the conditions of the early earth.

[Edwardo Piet]

Jenny come come now

What's this all about

[Hmmm?]

Hmmm... she's told me

You talking to me?

Hmmm I thought evolution and abiogenesis were very different things. Regardless of how life begins, the fact is life evolves.

Don't ask me man, I assure you I don't have the answers you're looking for 
(hint *maybe ask the biologist)

[jenny1972]

Theism + intelligent design.  Not deism + evolution, actually.

Hmmm... she's told me she's a deist who doesn't follow any religion and believes God just started the process of evolution and then natural selection did the rest.

actually i discovered that a deist is someone who believes in God but doesnt believe that God interacts with humanity , God is just always distant but exists didnt know that about deists , so i have to be a theist because i do believe that God interacts with people although i dont think there should be any religions at all

[Edwardo Piet]

See folks, she can learn!

Jenny is coo, don't say she isn't coo. There are crayer theists out there.

[jenny1972]

Abiogenesis is how the first replicator molecule happened; evolution is what happened once those replicators started mutating during replication and/or dying off due to competition and environmental factors that disproportionately favored some versions over others. They're somewhat the same thing, since both are the effect of biochemistry in action, but one is not required for the other.

Technically, Xenu could have dropped a turd out of his spacecraft's lavatory on the way past the early earth, and 4+ billion years later, those turd-bacteria became everything we see on earth. It still begs the question of how life first emerged to make Xenu, but as far as evolution goes, it doesn't matter if life arrived here or formed here; we just have no reason to think it didn't form here, based on what we already know of the formation of aqueous lipid layers into protocells, what we already know about interstellar ices forming precursor molecules to what's in earth's organic chemistry set, and what we know about the conditions of the early earth.

how did the first replicator molecule know how to do Abiogenesis or how to mutate ? did it just decide to do it on their own what do you think? replicator molecules were inclined to do that for some reason and did it for some reason

[The Grand Nudger]

It's like a chorus to shitty song...isn't it? "How did they know, did they just decide to do it on their own?"........................

[Edwardo Piet]

Well the natural forces of the universe apply even before DNA was around, it didn't need to know anything... the knowing came billions of years later when humans evolved

[jenny1972]

See folks, she can learn!

Jenny is coo, don't say she isn't coo. There are crayer theists out there.

haha thanks welll im sure my sister will agree with you at least