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RE: Exposing the Intellectual Bankruptcy of Atheists Criticizing Religion
November 3, 2015 at 9:02 pm
(November 3, 2015 at 8:58 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote: I have read the bible, It is trash suitable only for craft projects or lining animals cages.
Back in the day, the little ones made usable replacements when the Zig-Zags ran out.
You make people miserable and there's nothing they can do about it, just like god.
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RE: Exposing the Intellectual Bankruptcy of Atheists Criticizing Religion
November 3, 2015 at 9:15 pm
(November 3, 2015 at 9:02 pm)IATIA Wrote: (November 3, 2015 at 8:58 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote: I have read the bible, It is trash suitable only for craft projects or lining animals cages.
Back in the day, the little ones made usable replacements when the Zig-Zags ran out.
Really? I'd think that it would burn too fast.
"For the only way to eternal glory is a life lived in service of our Lord, FSM; Verily it is FSM who is the perfect being the name higher than all names, king of all kings and will bestow upon us all, one day, The great reclaiming" -The Prophet Boiardi-
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RE: Exposing the Intellectual Bankruptcy of Atheists Criticizing Religion
November 3, 2015 at 9:23 pm
Nope, works great. 
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RE: Exposing the Intellectual Bankruptcy of Atheists Criticizing Religion
November 3, 2015 at 9:23 pm
(October 31, 2015 at 11:54 pm)Delicate Wrote: Article: The New Philistinism
The New Atheist writers are supremely self-confident in their ability to dispatch opponents with a sarcastic quip or two. And they show no evidence whatsoever of knowing what they are talking about.
Great article. Worth reading to get an idea of what a joke so many atheist clergy are.
OP no just no Atheists are more close to reality than theists are.
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RE: Exposing the Intellectual Bankruptcy of Atheists Criticizing Religion
November 3, 2015 at 10:58 pm
(November 3, 2015 at 9:23 pm)Skeletor Wrote: Nope, works great.
The old ones with the onion-skin type thin paper worked great. The newer ones use a paper that is very harsh; the prisons and jails figured out quickly that inmates were using them (called "holy-rollers", especially when used to roll up marijuana or the more-common K2 and its sub-variants, for guys who want to try to stay ahead of the "testing-for-this-chemical-in-random-urinalysis-tests-now" curve, some of which chemicals are quite dangerous to the inmate who wants to relieve the mind-numbing boredom, in there, surrounded by loud and thoughtless people, and not want to choke people out), and switched to something that is inferior to its predecessor by a wide margin.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
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RE: Exposing the Intellectual Bankruptcy of Atheists Criticizing Religion
November 4, 2015 at 3:01 am
It's really quite simple, Deli. It's what I coined as "Abelard's razor":
"For where using reason isn't allowed, refuting anything by reason isn't allowed."
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza
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RE: Exposing the Intellectual Bankruptcy of Atheists Criticizing Religion
November 4, 2015 at 3:32 am
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(November 2, 2015 at 12:04 pm)abaris Wrote: As with so many things, there may be a distinct line between America and Europe. Obviously there's more of a need for organised atheism in the US than there is in most parts of Europe. I understand my atheism as individualism and certainly don't feel the need to be vocal about it or to join some group. But then again, religion doesn't play any public role hereabouts.
Looking at it from the outside, I have the same problem with groups like the atheist church, I have with any religious organisation. Which is the attempt to enforce their worlview on others.
Don't generalize too hastily from Austria and Germany. I can think of a whole host of European places where atheist activism would be useful, if only to give atheism a new modern voice that helps dissociate it from communist dogma . Poland, former Yugoslavia where religious discrimination is rampant bezween confessions and religions, and atheists could provide a sane voice of reason. Russia and Turkey, since their western parts are Europe. And the Churches still have too many privileges running Institutiond and influencing politics in Germany, Ireland...
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
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RE: Exposing the Intellectual Bankruptcy of Atheists Criticizing Religion
November 4, 2015 at 3:40 am
If I was Europe, I wouldn't claim Ireland either.
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RE: Exposing the Intellectual Bankruptcy of Atheists Criticizing Religion
November 4, 2015 at 3:41 am
I actually like Edward Feser. I've spent hours in the past reading his blog posts on Aquinas and other topics. But after re-reading the article presented the only conclusion I can make is "so what?" I don't feel any compulsion to defend the "new atheists." It is up to the individual to present a compelling argument in the best possible manner, and I don't see that manner as being required to be the actual substance of the argument.
Suppose I tell a theist of a Biblical inconsistency or a flaw in Aqunias's reasoning, and as a result of my effort the theist goes back over the material carefully in order to frame a rebuttal. Imagine in the course of investigation that the theist then reconsiders his own position, perhaps not even in regards to the points I have made but in corollaries reexamined. If such causes the theist to question the theology, is not my agenda served?
Some may question the intellectual integrity of such manipulations, but in my experience the deepest wisdom comes through self-realization. Besides, this is war; we're not at war with Edward Feser, but rather the Ray Comfort brigade.
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RE: Exposing the Intellectual Bankruptcy of Atheists Criticizing Religion
November 4, 2015 at 3:47 am
I just checked my intellectual atheist current account. It says I'm at -240,000. Shit! I barely pull in 100 intellectual points a week, and all this disbelief costs more than that.
I guess I'm filing for bankruptcy.
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