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Is America the greatest country
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 RE: Is America the greatest country
December 12, 2015 at 1:02 pm
(This post was last modified: December 12, 2015 at 1:02 pm by Excited Penguin.)
He is right. If guns were unsafe no one would use them, thus there wouldn't be any innocent people dying to begin with.
 (December 12, 2015 at 12:36 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:(December 12, 2015 at 12:31 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Gun nuts are never innocent. Most of those "accidents" are more properly called "negligence." If you leave a loaded gun laying around and a kid picks it up and shoots himself or someone else that is not an "accident." It is the predictable result of the gun owner being a fucking asshole. But "accident" sounds so much better to the denizens of Gun Nut Nation.  RE: Is America the greatest country
December 12, 2015 at 4:55 pm
(This post was last modified: December 12, 2015 at 4:58 pm by Anomalocaris.)
(December 12, 2015 at 12:56 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote:(December 12, 2015 at 12:45 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Yeah I definitely did not realize he was being sarcastic, considering how much he dislikes gun people. The reputation of both your nuance detector and your sarcasmometer have just become casualties.  (December 12, 2015 at 1:05 pm)Minimalist Wrote:(December 12, 2015 at 12:36 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: So the comment about hoping they shoot themselves by accident and die is legitimate then? Ok, so the comment about hoping they shoot themselves by negligence and die is legitimate then?
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh RE: Is America the greatest country
December 12, 2015 at 4:59 pm
(This post was last modified: December 12, 2015 at 5:01 pm by Anomalocaris.)
(December 12, 2015 at 4:57 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:(December 12, 2015 at 1:05 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Most of those "accidents" are more properly called "negligence." If you leave a loaded gun laying around and a kid picks it up and shoots himself or someone else that is not an "accident." It is the predictable result of the gun owner being a fucking asshole. Vastly more legitimate, and less mean spirited, than really choosing to believe there is a hell to which people go to burn, for an eternity. RE: Is America the greatest country
December 12, 2015 at 5:09 pm
(This post was last modified: December 12, 2015 at 5:10 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(December 12, 2015 at 4:57 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote:(December 12, 2015 at 1:05 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Most of those "accidents" are more properly called "negligence." If you leave a loaded gun laying around and a kid picks it up and shoots himself or someone else that is not an "accident." It is the predictable result of the gun owner being a fucking asshole. You've misunderstood. That the vast majority of "accidental discharges" are more accurately termed "negligent discharges" is an issue of fact. Guns don't fail at the rate that americans who've shot themselves and others claim they do (they hardly fail at all)..when they call it an accidental discharge. It'll keep you out of jail or civil court though...and that's why it's the go to bullshit response.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
What I was asking Min is if he agreed with the comment wishing death on innocent people. Getting into an argument over semantics is just straying from the point.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
-walsh  RE: Is America the greatest country
December 12, 2015 at 5:24 pm
(This post was last modified: December 12, 2015 at 5:25 pm by Thumpalumpacus.)
(December 12, 2015 at 4:55 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:(December 12, 2015 at 12:56 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: I think your clue is in his assertion of firearms going off randomly just sitting there. Well, it's a good thing I don't place much stock in the opinions of strangers offered online, then.  RE: Is America the greatest country
December 12, 2015 at 5:40 pm
(This post was last modified: December 12, 2015 at 5:40 pm by Edwardo Piet.)
(December 12, 2015 at 4:59 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:(December 12, 2015 at 4:57 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Ok, so the comment about hoping they shoot themselves by negligence and die is legitimate then? ... which would be true if it were ever possible for belief or disbelief to be a choice. |
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