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RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever"
December 25, 2015 at 7:35 am
(December 25, 2015 at 4:20 am)Exian Wrote: You're a shithead, Delicate. You're a fucking shithead. You're also an asshole. You're a fucking asshole. I was able to tell this just from reading the title of this thread. In fact, it was the title alone that elicited this strong emotional response toward you. Not because I found the title offensive, but because the title's sole aim is to be offensive. A side effect is that I don't give a shit what else you have to say, because I already know you're a fucking asshole and can ignore everything else. Could be that you made one hell of an argument in the following OP, but you made damn sure I won't give a fuck about it, and in doing so, you have elevated yourself to the level of an Internet troll. Congrats?
Exian, Exian. For once in your life I'd appreciate if you told us what you really think. Always these polite pleasantries...
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
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RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever"
December 25, 2015 at 7:36 am
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(December 24, 2015 at 5:15 pm)Defecate Wrote: [...]Is atheism built on one big strawman? If so, that would make atheism irrational.
No, Deflategate - atheism is not built at all. Atheism is simply death of superstition - you don't destroy idols, by building anything. You just knock the f*ck down piles of convoluted, archaic bullsh*t, raised by ignorant, fearful idiots.
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RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever"
December 25, 2015 at 9:11 am
(December 25, 2015 at 6:09 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: (December 25, 2015 at 3:32 am)Delicate Wrote: That's actually a fair observation. Maybe that is the kind of religion some people escaped.
But that doesn't make religion wrong. Just weird fundamentalism wrong.
Resorting to atheism is like going from one extreme to another
Wow, you have a total misunderstanding of what atheism is.
You are so wrong so very very wrong. I could could tell you why till I'm blue as a smurf but you just want your strawman to be intact so you can attack it.
I think he got the "Resort" part right. We have a pool, tennis courts, riding trails, golf, freedom of mind, no hypocrisy, no butt sex priests, no charlatans taking money from the poor and desperate, no magic healings, ..................
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RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever"
December 25, 2015 at 9:31 am
(December 24, 2015 at 5:15 pm)Delicate Wrote: (http://theweek.com/articles/552685/new-a...-than-ever)
In this engaging article, the author sets out to point out the mistakes Daniel Dennett makes in an editorial. Daniel predictably spins the facts to make it sound like the data supports atheism, and it called out, point by point, on his errors. But along the way was this interesting description of why atheistic criticisms of theism fail:
Quote:The faith that the New Atheists set out to mock, refute, and dispel was invariably the least impressive, least informed, least sophisticated, most easily dismissed form of the world's great religious traditions. If faith for you is believing in the most scripturally literalistic, doctrinally fundamentalist, ahistorical, credulous, theologically illiterate variant of devotion, well, then Harris-Dawkins-Hitchens probably rocked your world. But as any reader with even a cursory religious education discovered by about page 3 of any of their books, the not-great God of the New Atheists was nothing more than a big old Straw Man in the Sky.
Is atheism built on one big strawman? If so, that would make atheism irrational.
We are not the ones making claims based on a naked assertion based on an old bronze age book of myth.
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RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever"
December 25, 2015 at 9:38 am
Indeed. We are not the ones making claims at all.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever"
December 25, 2015 at 9:45 am
Delicate, do you think being an asshole (by strawmanning, refusing to listen, and repeatedly telling us you have a better understanding of atheism than the people who are actually atheists) is a good way to serve your God?
Seriously, do you think "this engaging article about atheists" isn't a clue that you're getting an extremely biased writer's view?
If you want to convince us that Christians are incapable of objectivity and rational thinking, but are instead experts at projecting their personal faults onto those they hate, you're doing a great job.
Keep going. You're helping our cause immensely, as neutral parties come here and see this kind of nonsense from you and your ilk, and they realize that your accusation of intellectual bankruptcy is nothing but a projection of Christianity's weakness in an attempt to mask the weakness.
It's why you always make accusations without foundation or specifics, why you won't listen when you're told you're wrong about how we feel/believe, and why you keep trying to create an atheist hierarchy like that of a church. You inherently recognize that your position is hollow, you try to use emotional manipulation and insults to keep the spotlight off the faults of Magical Thinking, and you simply refuse to listen when we point the spotlight where you don't want to look... that's why you repeat the same bullshit so often after being corrected that we can only conclude that you're willfully lying. Maybe you don't realize it's lying, since you're really just acting to preserve your fragile, imaginary magic world.
I pity you.
A Christian told me: if you were saved you cant lose your salvation. you're sealed with the Holy Ghost
I replied: Can I refuse? Because I find the entire concept of vicarious blood sacrifice atonement to be morally abhorrent, the concept of holding flawed creatures permanently accountable for social misbehaviors and thought crimes to be morally abhorrent, and the concept of calling something "free" when it comes with the strings of subjugation and obedience perhaps the most morally abhorrent of all... and that's without even going into the history of justifying genocide, slavery, rape, misogyny, religious intolerance, and suppression of free speech which has been attributed by your own scriptures to your deity. I want a refund. I would burn happily rather than serve the monster you profess to love.
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RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever"
December 25, 2015 at 10:06 am
Their fragile egos can't cope with people not believing their bullshit.
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RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever"
December 25, 2015 at 11:05 am
(December 24, 2015 at 5:33 pm)ignoramus Wrote: I thought strawmanning was used in place of evidence, not because of it? Evidence is an apostrophe for something that's not there. Haven't I said this before? If god existed in any meaningful way, we would not need evidence.
Wouldn't - would no'tthe least impressive, least informed, least sophisticated, most easily dismissed
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
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RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever"
December 25, 2015 at 11:08 am
(December 25, 2015 at 9:11 am)mh.brewer Wrote: (December 25, 2015 at 6:09 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: Wow, you have a total misunderstanding of what atheism is.
You are so wrong so very very wrong. I could could tell you why till I'm blue as a smurf but you just want your strawman to be intact so you can attack it.
I think he got the "Resort" part right. We have a pool, tennis courts, riding trails, golf, freedom of mind.............
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RE: "The New Atheists are back — and dumber than ever"
December 25, 2015 at 11:14 am
I don't know about a "new atheist," but the new Christian is ready to admit that people who believe the Bible ate the least impressive, least informed, least sophisticated, most easily dismissed.
I can't argue with the new Christian for he uses the Etch a Sketch version of the Bible.
The god who allows children to be raped out of respect for the free will choice of the rapist, but punishes gay men for engaging in mutually consensual sex couldn't possibly be responsible for an intelligently designed universe.
I may defend your right to free speech, but i won't help you pass out flyers.
Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.
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